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How long until the 4 team playoff format changes to 8 teams?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:05 pm
Over/under 6 years?
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I'll take the over for now, have to see how the playoff's selection committee plays out in the media
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:07 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Depends on if the sec gets another streak going.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:08 pm to Rebelfan1985
Way over....that format would potentially allow some truly hack teams to slip in.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:10 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
The current deal is supposedly in place for 16 years, so at least then.
That's how long the BCS lasted too.
Hopefully it never expands again. The last thing I wanna see is college football become like college basketball with a meaningless regular season that's just a seeding contest.
That's how long the BCS lasted too.
Hopefully it never expands again. The last thing I wanna see is college football become like college basketball with a meaningless regular season that's just a seeding contest.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:11 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Hopefully never. 4 is fine.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:11 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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How long until the 4 team playoff format changes to 8 teams?
Not soon enough.
I want to see the best teams settle it at year's end.
Not 65 teams like March Madness but I think 8 is more than enough to find out who's really the best at the end of the year.
Even if that means Bama gets a shitload more mulligans. Because it also means a two loss LSU team has a much better chance of winning the natty.
ETA: To answer your question: OVER. It will be at least 10 years before they seriously consider expanding beyond 4 teams.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:17 pm to IAmReality
A lot of times you have a clear cut number 1, and then 2-6 gets dicey. We're going to see the 4 and 5 teams have the same record and similar resumes in the future, and it's going to be a shitshow because the spot goes to whoever a panel of jack legs decided to give it to. Say what you will about the BCS, but it was the best system we've ever had for ranking the teams and bias was taken out for the most part because of the amount of voters being weighing in plus the computers. Now it's up to a small committee to take it upon themselves. Much more room for bias and more more opportunity for someone to get unfairly screwed.
This happens in CBB with a 68 team tournament. Now, if we move to 8 then the 9th team is going to feel shunned, however there usually a marked difference in record, resume, and skill between number 5 and number 9.
Just my .02
I feel like 8 team is the best way to do it. Plus we get more good football. Every other level of football, high school, D2, D3, NFL has 8 or more teams, I'm not sure why D1 has to be done so differently. The NFL is usually the only level of competition in which a lower seed wins the whole thing on a semi regular basis. You don;t see it in HS or D2, so I say move it to 8 and let them play
This happens in CBB with a 68 team tournament. Now, if we move to 8 then the 9th team is going to feel shunned, however there usually a marked difference in record, resume, and skill between number 5 and number 9.
Just my .02
I feel like 8 team is the best way to do it. Plus we get more good football. Every other level of football, high school, D2, D3, NFL has 8 or more teams, I'm not sure why D1 has to be done so differently. The NFL is usually the only level of competition in which a lower seed wins the whole thing on a semi regular basis. You don;t see it in HS or D2, so I say move it to 8 and let them play
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:19 pm to IAmReality
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The last thing I wanna see is college football become like college basketball with a meaningless regular season that's just a seeding contest.
Then do it like the NFL, where playing for seeding is incentive for an easy playoff path and let the top teams host the quarterfinals. Play the semis and NC with the highest bidding city
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:20 pm to BrerTiger
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I think 8 is more than enough
Devalues the reg season too much. If after 13 games you have finished 8th, you don't deserve to be a national champion. Sorry.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:21 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
At least twelve years. This next system's contract is for that long.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:22 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Then do it like the NFL,
Ugh. The NFL you can go 9-7 and be on equal footing as someone who went 16-0.
That's what makes cfb the greatest sport in the world, the regular season is far, far more precious than any other. An 8 or 16 or whatever team playoff will just see teams have to put it in cruise control and don't lose 3 games and you could probably be in.
They should jsut leave the BCS and take the top 4 into a playoff. boom.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:23 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
The second the SEC gets 2 schools in...and they both play each other for the title.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:23 pm to WG_Dawg
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If after 13 games you have finished 8th, you don't deserve to be a national champion. Sorry.
If you don't deserve it then you won't win it, the games are still going to be plasyed on a 100 yard field. I just struggle with the idea that every other level of football from high school to the NFL has this wrong and division 1 has it right.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:24 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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A lot of times you have a clear cut number 1, and then 2-6 gets dicey. We're going to see the 4 and 5 teams have the same record and similar resumes in the future
And that's the thing. 2 teams arguing over #2 can lead to debates for 50 years. 2 teams arguing over who's number 4 isn't really as relevant. I would say the overwhelming majority of the team, you are going to have 2 or 3 clear cut, cut above teams that will be in there. Then a couple teams with losses fighting it out for the 4th. But I mean if you've lost, you kinda are at the mercy of others anyway.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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The NFL you can go 9-7 and be on equal footing as someone who went 16-0.
Unless you play them in the conference championship and have to travel to their place. I'm not advocating 7 neutral site games, there needs to be some incentive for finishing at the top
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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If you don't deserve it then you won't win it,
This isn't even remotely logical. Upsets happen. Were the Giants a better NFL team than the Patriots in 07 or whever it was? Hell no, of course they weren't. They just played aboslutely balls to the wall for 60 minutes and at that day, on that field, for that game, they were the better team. But they "weren't the better team".
You know what I'm trying to say. An 13-0 SEC title winner shouldn't get rewarded by having to play 3 or 4 more football games to prove their worth, they've already done it.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:27 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Unless you play them in the conference championship and have to travel to their place
The point was that both teams are 0-0 come playoff time. The fact that one didn't lose a game all year and one barely went .500 becomes completely irrelevant, which is just absurd.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:28 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I just struggle with the idea that every other level of football from high school to the NFL has this wrong and division 1 has it right.
I do see that logic, and I would say that we have now gotten it right by moving to a 1v4, 2v3 set up. But it really doesn't need to go beyond that.
I'm already upset we have a frickin committee for it.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 3:28 pm to WG_Dawg
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I would say the overwhelming majority of the team, you are going to have 2 or 3 clear cut, cut above teams that will be in there. Then a couple teams with losses fighting it out for the 4th. But I mean if you've lost, you kinda are at the mercy of others anyway.
How could you have fairly decided the two teams to pick out of Alabama, Michigan State, Stanford, Ohio State this year? All teams with identical records from "power conferences" One way or another, had we started this year, the 5th and 6th teams would have had a serious and legitimate gripe
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