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re: How is Mark Richt still the HC at UGA?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:23 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:23 am to WG_Dawg
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One other thing to keep in mind during the goff/donnan years is that that period of our history, which could be looked at as average at BEST, also coincided with 2 of the all-time greatest runs in both UF and UT's history. Both those teams were probably top 5-7ish programs of the entire decade, and both played in our division. Sometimes you just have to admit that other people are better than you, and even if we had made better hires in the 90s, it's pretty likely that UT/UF would have still been better than us
Both Programs benefited by an average UGA program. Which came first the chicken or the egg ?
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:25 am to LaBornNRaised
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by LaBornNRaised
Head to head don't mean shite. Let's talk trophies in the last decade.
It means When richt and miles get together, richt wins more than miles despite miles having more overall talent. You should be Be thankful for ut beating ark in 2007 or else you wouldn't have much of anything to say.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 10:29 am
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:27 am to WG_Dawg
There is something to said for stability in a program, especially when you're winning 10 games practically every year. Look around the country at schools hiring coaches. Ten years ago, Mullen is gone from State after the success of last year. Now, Miss State has the money to pay the man and keep him in Starkganistan. Florida couldn't even pull in a big time coach with all the resources they have at their disposal.
UGA would be crazy to fire Richt. He's by all accounts a good man and just keeps winning games.
UGA would be crazy to fire Richt. He's by all accounts a good man and just keeps winning games.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:28 am to Irons Puppet
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Both Programs benefited by an average UGA program
I mean, both programs were essentially guaranteed an extra win on teh scheudle, but us being mediocre doesn't diminish how great/elite those schools were. Sure you could make an argument if we were 1 or 2 wins/season better it would've altered recruiting for all 3 teams, but there's absolutely know way of knowing for sure.
Today's UGA program is light years better than we were in the 90s...but if we had to play a spurrier-era 90s UF and a fulmer-era 90s UT every season, they'd still probably end up beating us more times than not.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:33 am to RedPants
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Listen Auburn, it's not like you guys have hit home runs in the coaching department. The one and only reason you have a natty is Cam. Period, end of story. If he never gets kicked out of Florida, this soap box you stand on never gets delivered to the plains, so give it a rest.
Exactly and it Would be delusional to expect another one year transfer heisman who was kicked out of another school to show up and make it appear the new hire was great even though it wasn't.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:33 am to djsdawg
quote:If he can't win the SEC or NC w/ Eason, then I think we should look at other options. We got some great talent in last years class and this class is gonna be even better (perhaps
Jacob Eason has 4/5 years this so does richt, but you can't fire a guy after a top 10 season, so we will see.
). We still got Pruitt and our O will always be good b/c the pro style offense has been proven to be effective. I think we get one by the time Eason leaves, but if we don't then Richt should be replaced. The 2 SEC titles were great but that was at the very beginning of his career and we have never played in a NC game.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 10:37 am to DawgGONIT
We just didn't have the luck of lsu 2003 in 2002 when we had nearly identical seasons.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:06 am to WG_Dawg
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I mean, both programs were essentially guaranteed an extra win on teh scheudle, but us being mediocre doesn't diminish how great/elite those schools were. Sure you could make an argument if we were 1 or 2 wins/season better it would've altered recruiting for all 3 teams, but there's absolutely know way of knowing for sure.
The benefits were not just on the field. Allowing TN to come into GA and get top recruits has a domino effect for that program. They were allowed to sell their program based on being the only program that challenged UF, and could do that in other states. History shows the East is only able to sustain two superior programs at one time, that is mainly due to recruiting territories. The west is different because of AU recruiting GA and FL, LSU recruiting LA and TX, and AL recruiting MS and LA.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:07 am to djsdawg
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Listen Auburn, it's not like you guys have hit home runs in the coaching department. The one and only reason you have a natty is Cam. Period, end of story. If he never gets kicked out of Florida, this soap box you stand on never gets delivered to the plains, so give it a rest.
Exactly and it Would be delusional to expect another one year transfer heisman who was kicked out of another school to show up and make it appear the new hire was great even though it wasn't.
First of all, there were other players around Cam. The key to AUs success is Gus, how else do you explain 2013 ?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:08 am to Irons Puppet
Iron, you never mentioned when, other than 2010, did richt have a bad enough season to earn a fire?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:11 am to djsdawg
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Correct txtiger. Should we have fired richt after 2012 because we fell one play short of a mnc game? Not one school would do it, unless its in irons imagination.
The game was close on the scoreboard but not statistically. A few breaks either way and Georgia wins or gets blown out. Drop the Red and Black glasses. The better team won. When both sides of the ball are championship caliber, then Georgia fans won't need to debate.
Since you brought up a hypothetical 2012 SEC Championship victory, I'll say that Richt hypothetically could have run away with the East since 2010 since that was a weak East with Florida's downfall and Tennessee's struggles, yet Georgia has only reached the championship game twice despite the program's advantages.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:12 am to Irons Puppet
2013? You guys had four leaf clovers all over your field. That was pure luck. Fail Mary and kick 6 were flukes. Plus, you didn't win the natty, if I remember correctly.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:14 am to djsdawg
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ron, you never mentioned when, other than 2010, did richt have a bad enough season to earn a fire?
You do not have to fire him, just convince him it is in his best interest to retire. 2013 was not a stellar year for that program, it would have been perfect timing to offer him the remainder of his contract and an Administrative job. In the long run it would have benefited both parties.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:22 am to Cumulonimbus
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Correct txtiger. Should we have fired richt after 2012 because we fell one play short of a mnc game? Not one school would do it, unless its in irons imagination.
The game was close on the scoreboard but not statistically. A few breaks either way and Georgia wins or gets blown out. Drop the Red and Black glasses. The better team won. When both sides of the ball are championship caliber, then Georgia fans won't need to debate.
Since you brought up a hypothetical 2012 SEC Championship victory, I'll say that Richt hypothetically could have run away with the East since 2010 since that was a weak East with Florida's downfall and Tennessee's struggles, yet Georgia has only reached the championship game twice despite the program's advantages.
Your response gives the indication that you didn't read what I wrote.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:27 am to Irons Puppet
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You do not have to fire him, just convince him it is in his best interest to retire. 2013 was not a stellar year for that program, it would have been perfect timing to offer him the remainder of his contract and an Administrative job. In the long run it would have benefited both parties.
Considering We had a championship caliber team before the injuries and refs hit in 2013, Not a good season to make such a decision.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:28 am to higgs_boson
quote:Georgia fans are annoying with their What-If 2012 SEC Championship game scenarios while ignoring that the Florida game could have swung the other way with 1 play too. 3 years later, and they still talk about it.
Also, this might be a moot point if they do really well this year. Beating Alabama would be huge for him.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:30 am to djsdawg
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Considering We had a championship caliber team before the injuries and refs hit in 2013, Not a good season to make such a decision.
Just more bullshite excuses from UGA Fans.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:49 am to Cumulonimbus
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Also, this might be a moot point if they do really well this year. Beating Alabama would be huge for him.
Georgia fans are annoying with their What-If 2012 SEC Championship game scenarios while ignoring that the Florida game could have swung the other way with 1 play too. 3 years later, and they still talk about it.
The only thing going In here is your inability to understand what you are reading. This is a thread discussing richts career, so why would we not discuss 2012? No one said the uf game couldnt have gone the other way. You made that up.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 11:50 am to Irons Puppet
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Considering We had a championship caliber team before the injuries and refs hit in 2013, Not a good season to make such a decision.
Just more bull shite excuses from UGA Fans.
I expected that point to go above your head, but the effects of the injuries were very real and impossible for an objective person to deny.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 12:04 pm to LaBornNRaised
Leave Mark Richt alone, he is a great coach for UG.
I, as a Florida fan, think he is doing a great job and should be given a life time contract.
I, as a Florida fan, think he is doing a great job and should be given a life time contract.
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