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re: How good is Lacy
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:22 pm to Teague
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:22 pm to Teague
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It's like you're retarded. Did you not understand the last time I explained this? Bama was ahead by more than 7 points nearly all season.
There were 100 such carries. He got none of them. GFY for the personal attack douche bag.
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:26 pm to therick711
So, what you're telling me, is that the STARTER got most of the carries at the beginning of the game?
Also, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I won't be so mean from now on. I'll just continue to point out how stupid your argument is.
Also, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I won't be so mean from now on. I'll just continue to point out how stupid your argument is.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:28 pm to Teague
You really don't even read.
The point being refuted:
You don't think it is relevant that the majority of those carries (which is a small sample size) came when the Tide was leading by 8 or more? It suggests the strength of the opponent and that Trent had done some damage early. To claim that Lacy's YPC in the first quarter is relevant without this context is stupid, even for you who don't understand statistics.
You use stats like a drunk uses a light post.
The point being refuted:
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I'll state the fact that last year in the first quarter even, Lacy averaged almost a yard and a half more per carry than Trent Richardson did.
You don't think it is relevant that the majority of those carries (which is a small sample size) came when the Tide was leading by 8 or more? It suggests the strength of the opponent and that Trent had done some damage early. To claim that Lacy's YPC in the first quarter is relevant without this context is stupid, even for you who don't understand statistics.
You use stats like a drunk uses a light post.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:41 pm to therick711
Debating how good he is at this point is just stupid. That will be proven on the field in short order. People last year were talking about Trent being the most overhyped RB in the country. People questioned Ingram and Coffee. We will find out in a couple of months. What we do know is that if he stays healthy, he has a chance to be an elite back. For a guy who stands at 6'0 225 lbs, he is athletic, quick and has great moves. Not many RB's out there I would take over him if he's healthy. The biggest challange he has to having a 1500 yard season besides his turf toe, is perhaps the next great Bama back in Yeldon who will demand more and more carries due to his production as the season goes along.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:43 pm to tider04
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The biggest challange he has to having a 1500 yard season besides his turf toe, is perhaps the next great Bama back in Yeldon who will demand more and more carries due to his production as the season goes along.
Well that, and you are talking about the third or fourth best performance in school history. I think he will be pretty good, but I think predicting a top five Bama season all-time might be a little premature.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:45 pm to Stonehog
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Probably the 4th or 5th best back in the league.
Just like Duron Carter should win Heisman.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:46 pm to therick711
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You really don't even read.
The point being refuted:
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I'll state the fact that last year in the first quarter even, Lacy averaged almost a yard and a half more per carry than Trent Richardson did.
You don't think it is relevant that the majority of those carries (which is a small sample size) came when the Tide was leading by 8 or more? It suggests the strength of the opponent and that Trent had done some damage early. To claim that Lacy's YPC in the first quarter is relevant without this context is stupid, even for you who don't understand statistics.
You use stats like a drunk uses a light post.
I admit I assumed you were spewing the same garbage you were spewing the other day when I made fun of you. That was you, wasn't it?
So, what is your argument now, that Lacy did better against weak opponents than he did against strong opponents?
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:47 pm to Teague
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National Champs: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1936, 1937, 1941, 1945, 1950, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1991, 1992, 1994, 2009, 2011
Like anyone would take you serious with that as your sig pic.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:48 pm to therick711
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Well that, and you are talking about the third or fourth best performance in school history. I think he will be pretty good, but I think predicting a top five Bama season all-time might be a little premature.
I don't think he will have a 1500 yard season due to the two reasons I listed. I think the coaches will manage his work load because of his injury (10-15 carries a game), and because Yeldon will start getting more and more carries as the season goes along. I do think that he will rush for over 1k yards even with those two constraints.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 4:57 pm to Teague
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So, what is your argument now, that Lacy did better against weak opponents than he did against strong opponents?
I don't have an argument. Just shedding some light on what the other poster was claiming. If I were making an overarching point, I wouldn't expect you to get it anyway based on the intellectual prowess you have displayed thus far. Hell, you can't even read what is right in front of your face.
Lacy is an unknown. He may be Barry Sanders 2.0. He may be Shaud Williams. He may be Emanuel Moody. You (the universal) don't know, and you (the specific) don't have anything to offer toward the discussion one way or the other from what I can see. Maybe I have misjudged you and you'll have some good point in retort.
BTW smart money is on Shaud Williams comparison. Here is a very attainable split for EL
280 1367 4.9 14
About as many carries as Trent got, with a slightly lower ypc.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 7/23/12 at 5:06 pm to therick711
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BTW smart money is on Shaud Williams comparison. Here is a very attainable split for EL
Not a good comparison at all. Lacy is a totally different type of back. Shaud was a very good small back, but maxed out his potential. Lacy, if healthy...and not splitting carries with another talented back like Yeldon, could easily rush for 1500+ this season. That won't happen due to the coaches managing his work load and the emergence of Yeldon, but he's certainly capable. He will have a similar YPC average as Ingram and Trent, and that should be the real barometer for how talented a back he is.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 5:19 pm to tider04
Yeldon will take a lot of Lacy's carries away. Yeldon is very legit. Lacy is a good back and I would compare him to our Ware if he didn't have the turf toe "injury prone".
Posted on 7/23/12 at 5:27 pm to hemiroid
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Lacy is a good back and I would compare him to our Ware if he didn't have the turf toe "injury prone".
Decent comparison. I'd add that Lacy is Ware with better moves and slightly more speed. Ware is a battering ram and little else, Lacy has more facets to his game.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 5:43 pm to lsuhunt555
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"He is a good back, who probably doesn't quite have the potential that Richardson did, but is probably capable of playing like Ingram."
I say this.
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