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re: How did LSU and Florida State beat Auburn?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:39 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:39 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
For Florida State, the answer is that the OC (which would be Jimbo) didnt herp derp all over himself in the second half like ours did. It certainly wasn't the FSU defense.
It's interesting though that last year LSU was so dominant against the HUNH for AU and ATM, but struggled against pro-style teams. Also struggled against OM. UGA scored 44 against LSU, Bama scored 38, and Arkansas scored 27. Bama dominated the pro-style teams, holding arky scoreless, and only allowing 17 points to LSU.
It begs the question if it is possible for an average to above average defense to defend both the HUNH and the pro style. I know LSU did that in 2011, but that LSU defense was excellent. Is it possible to sustain a defense year after year that can defend both?
It's interesting though that last year LSU was so dominant against the HUNH for AU and ATM, but struggled against pro-style teams. Also struggled against OM. UGA scored 44 against LSU, Bama scored 38, and Arkansas scored 27. Bama dominated the pro-style teams, holding arky scoreless, and only allowing 17 points to LSU.
It begs the question if it is possible for an average to above average defense to defend both the HUNH and the pro style. I know LSU did that in 2011, but that LSU defense was excellent. Is it possible to sustain a defense year after year that can defend both?
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:39 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:39 pm to Pettifogger
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pat-LSU-on-the-back thread so long as it disparages Bama
21-0, 21-17, 38-17
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:40 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
Ran the four corners. Seriously, gap covered.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:49 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
LSU - Early in the season when Auburn was just starting to get it together. Better team at the time.
FSU - They had the ball last.
FSU - They had the ball last.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:54 pm to AU03ALUM
We shot ourselves in the foot early with bad turnovers and Marshall kind of sucked in the rain due to tiny hands (or so we've been told).
But more than anything LSU was a better team at the time, playing at home.
Florida State, I can't remember. Memory gets fuzzy after Mason's last touchdown.
But more than anything LSU was a better team at the time, playing at home.
Florida State, I can't remember. Memory gets fuzzy after Mason's last touchdown.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:56 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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aybe Saban should try to copy what those two teams did instead of legislating his way to victory?
LSU only beat us due to the timing of the game on the schedule. Auburn found their identity in the second half and were tough to stop from November onward.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 5:58 pm to bopper50
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Simple, We were the better team.
You were the better team for the first half, and overall you were better that night. However, no one cares about how good you were early in the season.
27-24 38-17
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:00 pm to chattabama
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For Florida State, the answer is that the OC (which would be Jimbo) didnt herp derp all over himself in the second half like ours did. It certainly wasn't the FSU defense.
It's interesting though that last year LSU was so dominant against the HUNH for AU and ATM, but struggled against pro-style teams. Also struggled against OM. UGA scored 44 against LSU, Bama scored 38, and Arkansas scored 27. Bama dominated the pro-style teams, holding arky scoreless, and only allowing 17 points to LSU.
It begs the question if it is possible for an average to above average defense to defend both the HUNH and the pro style. I know LSU did that in 2011, but that LSU defense was excellent. Is it possible to sustain a defense year after year that can defend both?
The PAC 12 features several so-called high-octane offenses, and Stanford has performed splendidly against them. Stanford's defense didn't have too much trouble versus Michigan State either.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:22 pm to MrsGarrison
Lulz. The team would have known how to tackle Jeremy Hill later on.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 6:34 pm to MrsGarrison
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The PAC 12 features several so-called high-octane offenses, and Stanford has performed splendidly against them. Stanford's defense didn't have too much trouble versus Michigan State either.
If we are using below 27 points (what Bama's defense allowed) as the measure for how a defense did, Stanford allowed 27+ three times last season against Arizona State, Utah, and Washington. I checked to make sure that all of these points were scored against the defense (no punt/kick returns for touchdowns). While their defense did well, the rant has taught me that a defense allowing 27 points is getting dominated. Stanford, then, is not a model that can be used for a defense that can shut down both styles of offense consistently.
Granted, Bama's defense had two worse games against ATM and OU than Stanford, and Stanford did better, but their defense does not consistently shut down offenses.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 7:01 pm to chattabama
An Alabama fan should be able to understand how hard it is to get up for another team following a close, emotional, improbable victory versus one of your toughest opponents. Stanford lost to Utah following the Washington victory and USC following Stanford's Super Bowl versus Oregon.
The score of the first Arizona State game was 29-0 at halftime, then Stanford let off the brakes. In the PAC 12 Championship game rematch, Stanford didn't allow a bunch of garbage scores. On the other hand, Alabama didn't just let off the brakes versus Texas A&M and Oklahoma.
In the end, only one of Stanford's defensive performances might be a headscratcher, and that's the Washington game. However, Stanford does not have an elite secondary, and they were facing a pumped up, explosive Washington offense.
Excuses can be made for Alabama and Stanford, but Stanford honestly has had little problem with most of the high octane offenses they've faced. If they had better secondary talent, then they've be able to handle any offense. Don't forget that Stanford dominated Wisconsin's offense in the 2013 Rose Bowl too.
The score of the first Arizona State game was 29-0 at halftime, then Stanford let off the brakes. In the PAC 12 Championship game rematch, Stanford didn't allow a bunch of garbage scores. On the other hand, Alabama didn't just let off the brakes versus Texas A&M and Oklahoma.
In the end, only one of Stanford's defensive performances might be a headscratcher, and that's the Washington game. However, Stanford does not have an elite secondary, and they were facing a pumped up, explosive Washington offense.
Excuses can be made for Alabama and Stanford, but Stanford honestly has had little problem with most of the high octane offenses they've faced. If they had better secondary talent, then they've be able to handle any offense. Don't forget that Stanford dominated Wisconsin's offense in the 2013 Rose Bowl too.
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