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How come Ar-Kansas always have a good ofense but never
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/22/11 at 9:59 am
a good defense?
Is that why piggies always struggle against power houses the likes of Troy, A&M and Ole miss?
Little boby need to realize that in college u need defense to win, this is not the NFL.
They will never win the title with an osmotic defense like that
Funny how they bring up the 3 and 1 record against LSU in the last 4 years , why cann't they go back a little bit further in time?
Is that why piggies always struggle against power houses the likes of Troy, A&M and Ole miss?
Little boby need to realize that in college u need defense to win, this is not the NFL.
They will never win the title with an osmotic defense like that
Funny how they bring up the 3 and 1 record against LSU in the last 4 years , why cann't they go back a little bit further in time?
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:00 am to Northwestern tiger
We never struggle against LSU though 
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:01 am to Northwestern tiger
Their defense is vastly improved though this year according to the baconators....frickin stout if you ask me
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:03 am to Pigfeet
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We never struggle against LSU though
no becuase that is your super-penis envy bowl every year
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:04 am to Northwestern tiger
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:06 am to ocelot4ark
nobody cares about your threads
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:06 am to dkreller
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nobody cares about your threads
The OP cares if he wants an answer to his question.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:08 am to ocelot4ark
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I cover this on page 2.
not really
it doesn't answer the question of why ark always have a medicore defense
Or maybe a huge gap between Offense and defense given the fact that they play in the SEC
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:09 am to Northwestern tiger
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not really
it doesn't answer the question of why ark always have a medicore defense
Or maybe a huge gap between Offense and defense given the fact that they play in the SEC
We don't know that Arkansas doesn't have a good defense this year. When healthy, we haven't played a team with a good offense.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:10 am to Northwestern tiger
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Or maybe a huge gap between Offense and defense given the fact that they play in the SEC
The same could be said for LSU
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:13 am to sugatowng
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The same could be said for LSU
yeah but LSU wins NC with an avg offense and great defense
I guess since we haven't scored lots of points against the #1 defense in the country validates your argument
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:17 am to ocelot4ark
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We don't know that Arkansas doesn't have a good defense this year. When healthy, we haven't played a team with a good offense
i guess we might never find out this year, since you are playing a avg offense in your last regular season game
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:32 am to Northwestern tiger
Petrino is working on it but it just takes longer. The question you really should be asking is why, in all of college football, are there only two "elite" defenses (Bama and LSU). I believe there are three reasons for this.
1. There are fewer dominant DL coming out of high school and dominant defensive linemen are the basis for great defenses. Both Bama and LSU have dominant DL.
2. The 2nd hardest position to fill in college are elite defensive backs. There just aren't that many of them coming out of high school ready to play because most great DBs typically play on offense 1st and defense 2nd. Arkansas’ best DBs ever was Steve Atwater and to illustrate my above point he was an option QB in high school.
3. Great linebackers are also hard to come by but a defense can be very good with average LB’s if a team has a great DL and great secondary. If a team has all three, like Alabama does, then you have an elite defense.
Outside of Bama and LSU, Arkansas’ defense compares favorably with the other top teams across the country and Petrino continues to upgrade the defensive talent level with every class.
1. There are fewer dominant DL coming out of high school and dominant defensive linemen are the basis for great defenses. Both Bama and LSU have dominant DL.
2. The 2nd hardest position to fill in college are elite defensive backs. There just aren't that many of them coming out of high school ready to play because most great DBs typically play on offense 1st and defense 2nd. Arkansas’ best DBs ever was Steve Atwater and to illustrate my above point he was an option QB in high school.
3. Great linebackers are also hard to come by but a defense can be very good with average LB’s if a team has a great DL and great secondary. If a team has all three, like Alabama does, then you have an elite defense.
Outside of Bama and LSU, Arkansas’ defense compares favorably with the other top teams across the country and Petrino continues to upgrade the defensive talent level with every class.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:52 am to Northwestern tiger
I've heard a theory on what happened to our D and I'm just going to throw it out there.
In fall camp, reports were that this was the best defense we've had in years. Lots of seniors, good depth, etc. Reporters were saying they looked like a beast. Best defense since BMFP has been head coach.
Defense was hitting HARD. So much so that they put Knile Davis out of commision on the first day of practice. A reporter friend said that had a HUGE affect on the psyche of the Defense. That they had taken out our best offensive weapon, last seasons leading SEC rusher that managed that record in only half of last season, and from that point they were practicing differently. That it was a mental thing. For some on defense, it screwed them up in the head and the reporter said it showed.
Then against the scrubs at the start of the season, they didn't take them seriously, thought they could sleepwalk through them. Like Troy, who typically has a good mix of SEC level talent that can't get admitted to SEC schools. Defense bowed up when necessary, but they weren't playing with the same fire they had prior to putting K.D. out of service.
Then you loose Jake Bequette and Tank Wright, our best defensive ends for the Alabama game. Even then, we were able to stop Bama on three consecutive rushes at the 1 yard line and had a close game at the half. Bama special teams gouged us on several scores. Most teams that try to play a great Bama team without their two starting defensive ends and running back are not going to win that matchup.
As usual, our defense got better as the season went along. The team as a whole, seemed to hate all of the 11am starts on the road. Twittering until midnight will tend to make players groggy on the road too.
Then what you see is Bequette came back mid season and a couple of games later got into a really good flow. Same with Tank Wright after the broken forearm. Suddenly, our pass rush improves greatly. Prior to this, we just weren't getting pressure on QB's.
One other thing I might mention is that Willy Robinson can make good defensive adjustments, but in those early games where we struggled, our defense couldn't get off the field long enough in the first and second quarters for them to be implemented. Too many 3 and outs on offense due to a lack of a good running game. Once we found our running identity with Dennis Johnson, you'll note we had sustained drives and better adjustments on D.
So take it or leave it, just some reasoned thoughts on why we may have started slow this season and have gotten better as the season has gone on. Even with the issues listed, we've managed to win 10 games and only lose one.
In fall camp, reports were that this was the best defense we've had in years. Lots of seniors, good depth, etc. Reporters were saying they looked like a beast. Best defense since BMFP has been head coach.
Defense was hitting HARD. So much so that they put Knile Davis out of commision on the first day of practice. A reporter friend said that had a HUGE affect on the psyche of the Defense. That they had taken out our best offensive weapon, last seasons leading SEC rusher that managed that record in only half of last season, and from that point they were practicing differently. That it was a mental thing. For some on defense, it screwed them up in the head and the reporter said it showed.
Then against the scrubs at the start of the season, they didn't take them seriously, thought they could sleepwalk through them. Like Troy, who typically has a good mix of SEC level talent that can't get admitted to SEC schools. Defense bowed up when necessary, but they weren't playing with the same fire they had prior to putting K.D. out of service.
Then you loose Jake Bequette and Tank Wright, our best defensive ends for the Alabama game. Even then, we were able to stop Bama on three consecutive rushes at the 1 yard line and had a close game at the half. Bama special teams gouged us on several scores. Most teams that try to play a great Bama team without their two starting defensive ends and running back are not going to win that matchup.
As usual, our defense got better as the season went along. The team as a whole, seemed to hate all of the 11am starts on the road. Twittering until midnight will tend to make players groggy on the road too.
Then what you see is Bequette came back mid season and a couple of games later got into a really good flow. Same with Tank Wright after the broken forearm. Suddenly, our pass rush improves greatly. Prior to this, we just weren't getting pressure on QB's.
One other thing I might mention is that Willy Robinson can make good defensive adjustments, but in those early games where we struggled, our defense couldn't get off the field long enough in the first and second quarters for them to be implemented. Too many 3 and outs on offense due to a lack of a good running game. Once we found our running identity with Dennis Johnson, you'll note we had sustained drives and better adjustments on D.
So take it or leave it, just some reasoned thoughts on why we may have started slow this season and have gotten better as the season has gone on. Even with the issues listed, we've managed to win 10 games and only lose one.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 10:58 am to Reaganite
The worst defense in the SEC West of the top 4 won the title. And the 2nd worse took 2nd in the SEC. You are a fricking moron and you just showed it by this post. Good job now go away since you just exposed yourself as a fricking tard who spouts off stupid shite with no backing.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:09 am to Reaganite
I'll leave it. And that's on coaching. Willy Robinson, I don't care how much better we've looked, is still the weakest aspect in this program. He needs to go.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:16 am to Northwestern tiger
I've been pretty impressed with the defense the last few weeks. Biggest complaint for years was that they couldn't tackle, but now days its a lot tougher for other teams to get yards after contact.
The Arkansas defense has struggled with QB contain, and I would expect that to be a big part of the LSU offensive plan.
The Arkansas defense has struggled with QB contain, and I would expect that to be a big part of the LSU offensive plan.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:18 am to Ham Malone
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The Arkansas defense has struggled with QB contain, and I would expect that to be a big part of the LSU offensive plan.
I've seen numerous LSU fans say that we stand a better chance of winning since JJ will start at QB.
I don't see this at all. They'll run QB draws, roll the pocket, bootleg, etc...and Willy will sit there with his finger up his arse because he refuses to spy a QB. He didn't do it to f'ing cam newton.
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