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re: How Alabama hired Nick Saban
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:04 am to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:04 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Alabama won a national title in 1992 under Gene Stallings.
And an SEC CG loss away from being undefeated and playing for another in 1994.
He had a 30-0-1 winning streak at one point in that period.
Stallings had some good ball teams regardless of whether or not a cocktail napkin offer for professional football representation should be legally binding.
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:07 am to five_fivesix
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Mal Moore. End of Story.
"Im going to Miami and I'm not coming back without a coach"
fricking legend
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:16 am to Che Boludo
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And an SEC CG loss away from being undefeated and playing for another in 1994.
He had a 30-0-1 winning streak at one point in that period.
Stallings had some good ball regardless of whether or not a cocktail napkin offer for professional football representation should be legally binding.
Frankly, the wins even our mediocre coaches have is rather amazing. Shula, Curry, Franchione, Dubose all won at least 10 games in a particular season.
Alabama has always been the mecca of college football. When coach Saban finally made it to the promised land the perfect storm was on.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:24 am to SouthernInsanity
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They don't talk about it, but it's a common known fact that 75% of bama fans only started being fans once saban had his first successful season.
also, commonly known is that 73.4% of all statistics are entirely made up. The decade between two really good coaches in Stallings and Saban was the worst period of UA football since the '50s. It was plagued with sanctions, probation, and coaching turnover/controversy. Yet, UA managed 3 x 10+ win seasons and a conference championship among all of that turmoil.
And, through it all, games were watched, every September brought new hope and Eli Gold called games on radios being listened to on dove fields across the South, and every rivalry was thought to be a chance of winning no matter how bad things were. Bama fans were hardly in hiding or non-existent, but there also was much less to crow about and fewer social media mediums to populate with said crowing.
Bama is built for winning football. They hit the jackpot with Saban, that is undeniable. He took what could have been good to great with another hire and made it elite/GOAT. But, without him, I don't think the football program would have closed its doors. The dominance would not be what it is under Saban, but the competitiveness would be high.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:35 am to TrueLefty
Not in an official capacity, no. Nick met Candy at a party at our neighbors in Woodgate Estates. When Saban decided to leave Miami, his first call was to Skip Bertman and LSU. LSU was going to move on from Miles until Terry, Nick’s wife, refused as a result of the affair Nick had with Candy.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:40 am to Mud_Till_May
Much more impressive than hiring Saban, Alabama has accomplished what LSU couldn’t/can’t, and that’s keep Saban for 15 years.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:42 am to rustyshackleferd
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Not in an official capacity, no. Nick met Candy at a party at our neighbors in Woodgate Estates. When Saban decided to leave Miami, his first call was to Skip Bertman and LSU. LSU was going to move on from Miles until Terry, Nick’s wife, refused as a result of the affair Nick had with Candy.
As soon as you get through writing that revisionist history maybe you could expose the myth about who really won the war between the states?
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:43 am to lsusteve1
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Saban was a gift to Bama that was all about timing, nothing more.
This is somewhat true but there’s only a handful of schools he’d have left Miami for at the point. Maybe a dozen at most.
Yes they were in the right place at the right time, but Saban wasn’t going to Wisconsin, either.
It’s a fun thought experiment to think about where he’d have ended up if RR had taken the Bama job. The next season the biggest opening was Michigan so you’d have to think there in all likelihood. Aggie and Nebraska were also open, doubt he would have taken either of those but who knows? The year after that it was USCw, Notre Dame, and Tennessee. If he hadn’t left Miami before then he’s definitely gone for one of those 3.
This post was edited on 12/28/20 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:47 am to Mud_Till_May
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How Alabama hired Nick Saban
The real savior of Alabama football was Tim Tebow.
Shula was in his living room the night before signing day and was making a serious push for Tebow to come to Bama. Tebow ultimately went with his childhood team, snubbing Shula and slamming the door on a contract renewal.
Had Tebow come to Bama, it would have bought Shula at least one or two more years. Saban would have gone elsewhere.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:47 am to bamameister
I know you inbreds like to romanticize about how Nick and his family fell in love with Alabama and Tuscaloosa, but the truth is, they weren’t a consideration until after discussions with LSU ended.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:47 am to rustyshackleferd
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Not in an official capacity, no. Nick met Candy at a party at our neighbors in Woodgate Estates. When Saban decided to leave Miami, his first call was to Skip Bertman and LSU. LSU was going to move on from Miles until Terry, Nick’s wife, refused as a result of the affair Nick had with Candy.
None of this is true
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:50 am to CrimsonCoast
Those are always fun what ifs. LSU has a bunch of them, Bobby Bowden and Steve Spurrier both nearly came to LSU in the 80’s.
Pat Sullivan has agreed to take the job in 1994 and a presser has even been called to announce it when our AD then balked at paying his TCU buyout & he withdrew. We hired Dinardo a few days later.
In 99 Mark Emmett pushed really hard for Butch Davis but he ended up saying no, then they went to Saban.
Petrino had the job sewn up in 05 but apparently bombed his second interview and we went for Les instead.
Pat Sullivan has agreed to take the job in 1994 and a presser has even been called to announce it when our AD then balked at paying his TCU buyout & he withdrew. We hired Dinardo a few days later.
In 99 Mark Emmett pushed really hard for Butch Davis but he ended up saying no, then they went to Saban.
Petrino had the job sewn up in 05 but apparently bombed his second interview and we went for Les instead.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:51 am to rustyshackleferd
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LSU was going to move on from Miles
Stop. Les was 22-4 at that point and you think we were going to fire him?
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:52 am to rustyshackleferd
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LSU was going to move on from Miles
Les went 11-2 and 11-2 in his first two years at LSU. Nick Saban won more than 10 games only once in 5 years at LSU.
If you think LSU was going to "move on" from Les Miles after back to back 11 win seasons, you're only fooling yourself.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
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This is somewhat true but there’s only a handful of schools he’d have left Miami for at the point. Maybe a dozen at most.
Coach Saban had mentioned he was always intrigued at what it would be like coaching at a place like Alabama. He had no idea.
Bama took a completely transient head coach and patiently introduced the value system needed to not only build a dynasty but sustain it. It wasn't easy, there were tense moments, but never underestimate the power of that perfect match. When DNA, personality compatibility, and chemistry meet for the first time.
Coach Saban + Alabama = Rolling Stones.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
You can believe what you want, but I know for a fact the nature of the discussions had with Saban after he contacted LSU.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:54 am to bamasgot13
If RR had gone to Bama and then Michigan had hired Miles the next year I do think Saban would have been on the first plane back to BR, but that’s pretty much the only scenario that could have happened.
I do know our boosters contacted Sexton about it when it looked like that might happen but then Michigan went in a different direction. No idea if Saban would have left Bama after 1 year. I tend to doubt it but I guess weirder things have happened.
I do know our boosters contacted Sexton about it when it looked like that might happen but then Michigan went in a different direction. No idea if Saban would have left Bama after 1 year. I tend to doubt it but I guess weirder things have happened.
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Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:58 am to rustyshackleferd
The story I’ve heard from people who were friends with the Sabans from his LSU days are that he views the LSU and Alabama jobs as very similar from a resource perspective but that Bama having had the history of winning made the mentality there a little easier to whip into shape. The flip side for him though is that at LSU he could have been the patriarch of the program while there he’s “just” the next hall of fame coach.
He’s said plenty of times he wishes he had never left LSU but obviously it’s worked out for him.
Sucks for us but we’ve still ended up up with 3 NCs in 4 appearances in the last 16 years so not too bad. He certainly taught LSU how to win in a way that nobody else had and that’s not going to go away.
He’s said plenty of times he wishes he had never left LSU but obviously it’s worked out for him.
Sucks for us but we’ve still ended up up with 3 NCs in 4 appearances in the last 16 years so not too bad. He certainly taught LSU how to win in a way that nobody else had and that’s not going to go away.
This post was edited on 12/28/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 12/28/20 at 10:59 am to rustyshackleferd
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I know you inbreds like to romanticize about how Nick and his family fell in love with Alabama and Tuscaloosa, but the truth is, they weren’t a consideration until after discussions with LSU ended.
Too much-unfiltered swamp water for you Amos Moses.
Posted on 12/28/20 at 11:01 am to Hback
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Before, bama hadn’t been shite since Bear was the coach
Yeah, Stallings was complete shite. What a complete DA
Yeah not one of his better posts.
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