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re: Harris Voter vows to move OSU to #2 with win over OU
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:57 pm to JPLSU1981
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:57 pm to JPLSU1981
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Jay Walker
^^^^Bitch OSU vs LSU one of the more boring bowl games if it happens. It is quite clear why LSU fans are on their bandwagon because they would be assured the BCSNC as it would be over by mid 2nd qtr.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:57 pm to Coon
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I want osu over bama strictly for the epicness of the meltdown that bammers here would have.
LSU fans kill me:
Give something a less than 5% chance of happening and they call that a lock.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:57 pm to RollTideRockStar
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Not the human analysis.
What does this mean? Really? I get that most people, including myself, think the SEC is a better conference. But after the top 2 (maybe 3-4 with Arky,UGA), there is a significant dropoff.
The top 4 Big 12 teams (according to record):
1. Okie State
2. Kansas State
3. OU
4. Baylor
Match them up against the SEC and I'd say the SEC would win at least 3 games.
Then:
5. Missouri
6. Texas
7. A&M
8. Iowa State
Match them against South Carolina, Auburn, Florida and Vandy. How many does the SEC win? One?
Then put Texas Tech and Kansas vs. Kentucky and Mississippi State. Not that it matters, but I guess the SEC wins those two.
Then down to Tennessee and Ole Miss. It is sad how bad they are.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:58 pm to RollTideRockStar
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2/3 > 1/3
you assume ALL voters would put you ahead?
Maybe you missed the tile of this thread:
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Harris Voter vows to move OSU to #2 with win over OU
Posted on 11/30/11 at 4:59 pm to RollTideRockStar
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Give something a less than 5% chance of happening and they call that a lock.
It's not a "lock" that Oklahoma St wins and that VT loses. IF it plays out that way, it's probably a lock for Oklahoma St to play in the BCSCG.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:00 pm to RollTideRockStar
I don't think it's less than 5% chance. Obviously osu has to do work but the fact that the gumps here disagree that there's any chance is what's gonna make it even better.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:00 pm to CptBengal
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you assume ALL voters would put you ahead?
Maybe you missed the tile of this thread:
More than than the amount we need.
Maybe you missed it. It's 1 vote. They need 65. They MAY have 10 at the moment.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:01 pm to RollTideRockStar
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Key words. Only the computers think the Big 12 is that good. Not the human analysis.
fricking computers and their emotions. It's bullshite I tell you.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:02 pm to graychef
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graychef
The Big 12 can't play defense. I can't match those teams right now. But I for one think the Big 12 is vastly overrated. With the exception of 2005, recent history has proven that as well.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:03 pm to RollTideRockStar
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aybe you missed it. It's 1 vote. They need 65. They MAY have 10 at the moment.
55 to go.....and only one of you two teams plays this weekend.
Can you guess which team can play their way into the MNC? Do you think those kids will be fired up for that opportunity? I realize it's not the same as sitting at home on your couch.....
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:04 pm to RollTideRockStar
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be you missed it. It's 1 vote. They need 65. They MAY have 10 at the moment.
Is there any chance a voter changes his mind IF Okie State wins? (don't say 5%)
I ask because as it stands today, Bama is in great position to be #2. IF the scenario plays out, the voters will have to cast their votes one last time. They are not required to cast the same vote as last week.
The final vote will be based on the entire 2011 season.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:05 pm to bmy
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It's not a "lock" that Oklahoma St wins and that VT loses. IF it plays out that way, it's probably a lock for Oklahoma St to play in the BCSCG.
No it's not.
Read this.
LINK
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A straw poll of 10 media members who have votes in the Harris Poll revealed a wide disparity on where OSU ranks. The Cowboys are as high as No. 3 and as low as No. 7 on their ballots.
Read more: LINK
Even with the VA Tech loss, and their win in Bedlam, I still say OSU goes to the Fiesta. Which is what everyone else is predicting as well.
This post was edited on 11/30/11 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:07 pm to graychef
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Is there any chance a voter changes his mind IF Okie State wins? (don't say 5%)
They haven't changed their mind yet. They still rank OSU pretty low. IF they change their mind, it will be to vote them 3rd rather than 5th or 6th like they have been.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:08 pm to graychef
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What does this mean? Really? I get that most people, including myself, think the SEC is a better conference. But after the top 2 (maybe 3-4 with Arky,UGA), there is a significant dropoff.
The top 4 Big 12 teams (according to record):
1. Okie State
2. Kansas State
3. OU
4. Baylor
Match them up against the SEC and I'd say the SEC would win at least 3 games.
Then:
5. Missouri
6. Texas
7. A&M
8. Iowa State
Match them against South Carolina, Auburn, Florida and Vandy. How many does the SEC win? One?
Then put Texas Tech and Kansas vs. Kentucky and Mississippi State. Not that it matters, but I guess the SEC wins those two.
That doesn't really convince me that the BIG 12 is so much better?
Maybe a little deeper 5-8 but even the Missouri, Texas, A&M vs South Carolina, Auburn, Florida, Vandy group you have isn't a sure 3 of 4 for the BIG12 is it?
I think Vandy is as about good as Iowa St for example???
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:10 pm to wm72
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That doesn't really convince me that the BIG 12 is so much better
doesn't have to....dem tinkin macheens dey got, it convinces dem pleny!
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:11 pm to wm72
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That doesn't really convince me that the BIG 12 is so much better?
I'm pointing out that the SEC isn't overwhelmingly dominant as in the past. The quality wins throughout the SEC aren't plentiful. I would say they would go 5-5 in those matchups with terrible Ole Miss and Tennessee being the difference.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:13 pm to graychef
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No team will play a brutal schedule every year. If we are to evaluate a complete schedule, the quality wins components should have some consideration. If not top 40, I'd suggest top 20. To me, a top 20 win is impressive.
I get that and you've got a point. But I just can't past the loss to Iowa State. If they were ranked in the top 25, then I'd have the opinion that any team can slip up and get beat. But Iowa State is not a good team on either side of the ball. They were a 21 pt underdog. If you wanna claim that you're one of the top 2 teams in the country and should play for a NC, then a loss like that is unacceptable IMO.
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:15 pm to crimsonsaint
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If you wanna claim that you're one of the top 2 teams in the country and should play for a NC, then not winning your division/conference is unacceptable IMO.
fify
Posted on 11/30/11 at 5:15 pm to graychef
If OSU does get in, how great it would be if they won - I wouldnt mind seeing the streak end in this case.
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