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re: Hard to disagree with Shane Beamer regarding scheduling and risk -vs- reward
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:13 pm to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:13 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Whatever. I hope yall go winless next year.
If you could have added to that this year you wouldn't be crying right now.
You pretty much missed your window.
If you had common sense you'd be bitching about teams like Miami, SMU, Indiana and Boise St who should be ranked behind you based on SoS and the fact none of them have a top25 win.
But nope, you want to cry about one of the teams that does legitimately belong ahead of you. 4 other teams, but let's cry about Alabama.
fricking retard.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 11:15 pm
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:14 pm to labamafan
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Everything favored Bama in this scenario. Beat SC head to head, yall beat OK if memory serves correct but had a loss to LSU who Bama beat on the road. You also lost to OM which is why they’re ranked ahead of you also. You’re letting your fandom cloud your judgement.
The committee claims that it judges teams by 1- strength of schedule, 2- head-to-head and 3- “outcomes vs common opponents”.
The difference in SOS between Bama and Ole Miss is negligible and they didn’t play head to head.
So, if the committee truly goes by the metrics it claims it does, then the best judge of Alabama and Ole Miss should be common opponents.
The facts are with the four common opponents between Ole Miss and Bama-
1- UGA - Ole Miss 3 score clear victory vs Bama 1-score game decided late in the fourth.
2- USC - Ole Miss 3 score clear road victory vs Bama 1-score game decided late in the fourth.
3- Oklahoma - Ole Miss clear victory vs Alabama 3-score loss.
All overwhelmingly favor Ole Miss
So, the question is, does Alabama’s blowout win over LSU vs Ole Miss OT loss to LSU make up the overwhelming gap in the other three games????
I’d argue at best for Alabama, the OU-LSU results are a push with Ole Miss.
That leaves the fact that Ole Miss had convincing wins over UGA and at USC, compared to Bama’s games that came down to the wire.
Yes, Ole Miss has a loss 4-8 Kentucky by 3 points in Week 5 - is that really worse than Alabama’s loss to 6-6 Oklahoma by 21 in the penultimate week of the season?
Yes, there are a few areas where Bama may look better than Ole Miss…Wisconsin better than Wake, Mizzou better than Arkansas….but those are way down the list.
Alabama’s best argument is that they beat UGA and USC - and Ole Miss’s argument on that is better.
Go to hell Ole Miss, go to hell. And I’m no fan of Lane Kiffin. But Ole Miss belongs in the playoff over Bama.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:15 pm to lsusa
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The committee claims that it judges teams by 1- strength of schedule, 2- head-to-head and 3- “outcomes vs common opponents”.
The difference in SOS between Bama and Ole Miss is negligible and they didn’t play head to head.
So, if the committee truly goes by the metrics it claims it does, then the best judge of Alabama and Ole Miss should be common opponents.
The facts are with the four common opponents between Ole Miss and Bama-
1- UGA - Ole Miss 3 score clear victory vs Bama 1-score game decided late in the fourth.
2- USC - Ole Miss 3 score clear road victory vs Bama 1-score game decided late in the fourth.
3- Oklahoma - Ole Miss clear victory vs Alabama 3-score loss.
All overwhelmingly favor Ole Miss
So, the question is, does Alabama’s blowout win over LSU vs Ole Miss OT loss to LSU make up the overwhelming gap in the other three games????
I’d argue at best for Alabama, the OU-LSU results are a push with Ole Miss.
That leaves the fact that Ole Miss had convincing wins over UGA and at USC, compared to Bama’s games that came down to the wire.
Yes, Ole Miss has a loss 4-8 Kentucky by 3 points in Week 5 - is that really worse than Alabama’s loss to 6-6 Oklahoma by 21 in the penultimate week of the season?
Yes, there are a few areas where Bama may look better than Ole Miss…Wisconsin better than Wake, Mizzou better than Arkansas….but those are way down the list.
Alabama’s best argument is that they beat UGA and USC - and Ole Miss’s argument on that is better.
Go to hell Ole Miss, go to hell. And I’m no fan of Lane Kiffin. But Ole Miss belongs in the playoff over Bama.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:16 pm to lsusa
I'm all in on Ole Miss and the Cocks. Bama and Miami being above us is embarrassing
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:21 pm to 3down10
The two unranked losses are wild.
Yall lost to the 12th and 14th best SEC teams. Almost inexcusable losses. It’s like the committee completely discounted bad losses.
Yall lost to the 12th and 14th best SEC teams. Almost inexcusable losses. It’s like the committee completely discounted bad losses.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:23 pm to the808bass
They took us entirely out of the equation because of who we are. Wouldn't even pick our game with Clemson on Gameday because they didn't want to talk about it. Would of jizzed on Clemson had they won..we won and and they completely eliminated us from the conversation
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:34 pm to the808bass
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the808bass
The two unranked losses are wild.
Yall lost to the 12th and 14th best SEC teams. Almost inexcusable losses. It’s like the committee completely discounted bad losses.
Ole Miss is worse. Kentucky, LSU and Florida.
But both Alabama and Ole Miss have wins over USC, as well as Georgia. Both USC and Alabama have wins over Missouri.
USC has higher quality losses, but 2 of them are against the teams in front of them.
In the end, it just highlights the format itself is stupid. I just don't know why anyone is blaming Alabama when you have multiple teams like Boise St, Indiana and SMU ahead of them when they have only played 1 top25 team and lost to them. Shouldn't a team in the top10 have at least 1 win against a ranked team?
None of them have a ranked win and somehow they are called top 10 teams, but let's bitch about Alabama?
Hell, Miami not only has 0 top25 wins, they have an unranked loss. People will say Texas and that's true, but they don't have unranked losses and their overall SoS is much better than the others being mentioned. It will go up again after Georgia this weekend, but what if they lose? 0 top25 wins, where do they really belong?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:35 pm to 3down10
Your graphic has Bama 3-1 vs “Ranked teams”…
Ole Miss is 2-0 bs “Ranked teams”
That third ranked win for Bama is #19 Missouri, who is 9-3 with 31 and 34 point losses. Mizzou’s five SEC wins were vs 5 of the lowest six teams in the league 6-6 Akansas, Oklahoma and Vandy, Auburn and Mississippi State.
It’s an absolute joke they are in the top 20.
That’s not some huge plus for Bama.
Ole Miss is 2-0 bs “Ranked teams”
That third ranked win for Bama is #19 Missouri, who is 9-3 with 31 and 34 point losses. Mizzou’s five SEC wins were vs 5 of the lowest six teams in the league 6-6 Akansas, Oklahoma and Vandy, Auburn and Mississippi State.
It’s an absolute joke they are in the top 20.
That’s not some huge plus for Bama.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:37 pm to lsusa
Amazing this analysis about teams that look similar, and who is playing better is not part of the equation. Makes sense to me. And the fact that we are 10-2 without the Sankey influence.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:38 pm to lsusa
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That’s not some huge plus for Bama.
Still better than Ole Miss even if you unranked Missouri.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:39 pm to 3down10
Bama couldn't score a TD against a bad Oklahoma team in the last few weeks. Embarrassing.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:43 pm to PappyGarcia
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Sellers didn't play the second half of the LSU game
yes he did
quote:no you don't
we still beat them by 2 touchdowns without the refs.
Sellers didn't come out of the game until LSU was up 29-24. That was in the 4th quarter. Ashford came in for 1 play in the 2nd quarter and one series in the 3rd quarter. Sellers wasn't removed from the game until USC was losing
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:45 pm to lsufball19
Sellers got hurt on the last play of the second half on a ridiculous play call. Sorry it happened.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:46 pm to PappyGarcia
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Bama couldn't score a TD against a bad Oklahoma team in the last few weeks. Embarrassing.
They did score a TD.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:47 pm to lsufball19
So Sellers came out while we are losing when nothing happened.. what? And Ashford threw a game sealing bomb that got called back on a phantom OP call that ever Herbstreet couldn't find with his cuck arse
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:48 pm to lsufball19
Rewatch it dude. Sellers got hurt on the last play of the half. They tried to put him in and he couldn't go.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:51 pm to PappyGarcia
We scored 24 in the first half with him and 9 on the second half without him. Not alone the two pick 6s taken back on bad calls and the game sealing pass on a phantom call that even had the booth in confusion. Sorry dude you are wrong
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:59 pm to 3down10
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Still better than Ole Miss even if you unranked Missouri.
No, it’s not.
Ole Miss beat UGa by 18 in a game that was never competitive. Alabama beat UGA by 7 late in the fourth quarter.
Ole Miss beat USC by 24 in Columbia. Alabama beat USC by 2 in Tuscaloosa in a game than was still in doubt on the final play.
The majority of Alabama’s case for being in the playoffs is that they beat UGA and USC….and Ole Miss can make that argument better.
Ole Miss’s 3-point loss to awful Kentucky is a wash with Alabama’s awful 21-point loss to bad Oklahoma.
Bama’s loss to Vandy is a wash with Ole Miss’s loss to Florida.
So really the only argument that leaves Bama is that they lost to 10-2 Tennessee, whereas Ole Miss lost to an 8-4 LSU….
So what’s more important? ole miss’s better wins or Alabama’s better loss?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 12:02 am to lsusa
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Ole Miss beat UGa by 18 in a game that was never competitive. Alabama beat UGA by 7 late in the fourth quarter.
Ole Miss beat USC by 24 in Columbia. Alabama beat USC by 2 in Tuscaloosa in a game than was still in doubt on the final play.
The majority of Alabama’s case for being in the playoffs is that they beat UGA and USC….and Ole Miss can make that argument better.
That's not how it works. You don't get extra wins because you won by more, it's not a power ranking.
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Ole Miss’s 3-point loss to awful Kentucky is a wash with Alabama’s awful 21-point loss to bad Oklahoma.
Wrong.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 12:05 am to 3down10
There is no metric lol. They never said how they would choose teams..I wonder why not??
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