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Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:03 pm to Roaad
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OU gets the nod for beating them and winning conference.
Considering the repeated talk of giving weight to a conference champion, Ducks winning H@H handily and the prebowl rank being Stanford #4/ Oregon #5...I would think Ducks get invite, even with LSU H2H loss in early season.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:08 pm to Aman
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I just don't buy the LSU got screwed argument.
I don't see how anyone can. 04 Auburn got screwed. LSU was given a spot in the national title game in their home state. All they had to do was win. They lost 21-0.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:14 pm to Roaad
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Had we a 4-team playoff last season, LSU would have had 2 rematches
Just meaning it's less likely we'd schedule a top 10 team like Oregon only to play them again in the postseason. If Auburn can be #3 (2004) but playing nothing but rent-a-wins outside their SEC schedule, then there's little incentive in a 4 team playoff for SEC schools to schedule tough OOC games. Just running the table or 1 loss in the SEC would be enough to get you in. No worse than #4 and #4 is all you need from 2014 forward.
But I don't think Miles cares. He'd be "honored" to play anyone on the schedule. And I'm fine with that so long as Jefferson and Lee can never, ever suit up for LSU ever again.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:14 pm to Roaad
In 05 USC got to sit at home waiting for the national title game while Texas had to play in the Big 12 title game. Did Texas get screwed?
I can assure you, Alabama fans would take 14-0 and an SEC title and national title any day over 12-1 with just a national title. I don't know of any Bama fan watching the LSU UGA game who was thinking "Damn I sure am glad we are not playing right now."
Alabama got to play in the BCS title game because of some incredibly fortunate events outside of our control, just like 03 and 07 LSU, 06 and 08 Florida, and any other 1 or 2 loss national champion. If you lose any game in the regular season, your fate is left to chance. The right things happened and we took advantage in the big game.
I can assure you, Alabama fans would take 14-0 and an SEC title and national title any day over 12-1 with just a national title. I don't know of any Bama fan watching the LSU UGA game who was thinking "Damn I sure am glad we are not playing right now."
Alabama got to play in the BCS title game because of some incredibly fortunate events outside of our control, just like 03 and 07 LSU, 06 and 08 Florida, and any other 1 or 2 loss national champion. If you lose any game in the regular season, your fate is left to chance. The right things happened and we took advantage in the big game.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:17 pm to Monticello
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I don't see how anyone can. 04 Auburn got screwed
This.
I thought for sure that 04 Auburn would lead to a playoff.
But apparently the other conference didn't GAF until we had the first all SEC BCSNCG.
Now... they care.
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LSU was given a spot in the national title game in their home state.
I really hate agreeing with a Gump.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:17 pm to BrerTiger
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Just meaning it's less likely we'd schedule a top 10 team like Oregon only to play them again in the postseason.
I disagree. The strength of schedule factor is already being talked about heavily. It's going to force teams to play tough OOC games. Sure Auburn played a weak 04 schedule, but they also had to go undefeated to get a spot in the playoff. If they had slipped up and lost a game, another 12-1 team would have probably gone over them due to the schedule. With the new playoff, you don't want a schedule so weak that you have to go undefeated to be in the top 4.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:31 pm to Aman
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Bottom line is there is no prespective (other than a LSU fans) in which LSU got "royally fricked".
But we did. On "that date I shall not mention".
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:50 pm to Monticello
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Are you really using an extra weeks rest before the national title game as an excuse for 21-0?
frick no, we still would have most likely lost.
However, while LSU was fighting for it's life in the SECCG, I'm sure Saban & Co were sitting at home breaking down game footage of the LSU vs. Arkansas game.
All because they didn't earn the right to be in the SECCG.
It is what it is.
I'm just saying with a final four playoff NCG, the obvious preparation and rest advantage Bama had will not occur again.
Let me be clear,
I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR WHY LSU LOST.
Bama was clearly the better team on 1/9/12.
ETA: GFY
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 2:01 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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At least Bama wouldn't have had an extra week to rest and prepare for the BCSNCG.
What the hell good did that extra week give Miami in the '93 Sugar Bowl? What good did that extra week give Ohio State in the '07 BCS title game or Oregon in the '11 title game?
One extra week, when you have that long of a lay off, doesn't mean squat.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 2:18 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Let me be clear,
I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR WHY LSU LOST.
Yes you are. You seem to think 6 weeks to prepare versus 5 weeks to prepare is a significant advantage. I'm sure the coaches were watching tape, but the players at Bama didn't even start practice for the game until a few days before Christmas.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 2:23 pm to Aman
Honestly, I think an UA fan taking umbrage with an excuse for losing as opposed to simply congratulating the team that won is odd. Just in last two years, reverse order, 1. Fluke, 2. Mental lapse, 3. Fluke, 4. Opposing team played their best game in 100 years. No one else is allowed to do this?
Posted on 6/27/12 at 3:28 pm to Aman
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Bottom line is there is no prespective (other than a LSU fans) in which LSU got "royally fricked".
This is simply not true. Every fan that I know outside of the SEC and Bama fans believe that OSU got royally screwed and LSU got screwed by having to play a team that beat in the regular season on the road. No one I know says that Bama and LSU were not deserving or not the best 2 teams. But they all say that in 100+ D1 college football with a short season and no playoff that a rematch was ridiculous.
No one is saying that Bama did something illegitimate just that everyone else wanted to see if OSU could match up with LSU. It would have been the other way around had Bama won in November and LSU had won in January.
I am sorry that this widely held opinion hurts your feelings.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 3:31 pm to Roaad
Posted on 6/27/12 at 3:33 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR WHY LSU LOST.
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the obvious preparation and rest advantage Bama had will not occur again.
You just made the same excuse again in your post explaining that you are not making excuses. 6 weeks of rest v. 5 weeks of rest is not an "obvious" advantage. Like I said earlier, the Big Ten used to complain all the time that there was too much time between their regular season finale and the national title game and that they were out of rhythm by then.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:17 pm to Monticello
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You just made the same excuse again in your post explaining that you are not making excuses. 6 weeks of rest v. 5 weeks of rest is not an "obvious" advantage. Like I said earlier, the Big Ten used to complain all the time that there was too much time between their regular season finale and the national title game and that they were out of rhythm by then.
If you don't understand what I am saying at this point then you are a dumb arse.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:25 pm to Tigerinasia
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LSU got screwed by having to play a team that beat in the regular season on the road
And Florida State got screwed in 1996 by having to replay a Florida team they beat after nearly blowing a 17-0 lead in Tallahassee.
And Auburn got screwed in 2004 because a perfect season wasn't enough.
And Notre Dame got screwed in 1993 when Florida State got to claim a national title despite losing to Notre Dame. Because the BCS didn't exist, we weren't able to have the rematch that everyboy wanted.
But mostly LSU fans are upset because Jefferson and Lee were the only options we had the last 4 years.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:27 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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I'm just saying with a final four playoff NCG, the obvious preparation and rest advantage Bama had will not occur again.
How do you figure?
Is the SECCG going away?
You don't have to win the conference or even play the conference championship game to play in the 4 game playoff.
Not sure I follow you here.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:33 pm to BrerTiger
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How do you figure?
Is the SECCG going away?
You don't have to win the conference or even play the conference championship game to play in the 4 game playoff.
Not sure I follow you here.
Assuming the semi-final playoff games occurs on the same weekend, the teams in the final will have an equal amount of time to prepare for the championship game.
Yeah, the inequity could still exist for the final four but at least not for the final.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 4:37 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Yeah, the inequity could still exist for the final four but at least not for the final.
And someone, somewhere will whine about that.
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