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re: Gurley or Lattimore
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:17 pm to Ermahgerd
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:17 pm to Ermahgerd
Lattimore and it comes down to stats and sense.
Gurley's Freshman Season.
199 Rushing Attempts
1260 Rushing Yards
16 Rushing TD's
15 Receptions
113 Rec Yards
0 Rec TD's
Lattimore Freshman Season.
249 Rushing Attempts
1197 Rushing Yards
17 Rushing TD's
29 Receptions
412 Rec Yards
2 Rec TD's
Lattimore had more total yards, TD's, was more of an every down RB and didn't have a backup RB as talented as Marshall. Lattimore helped us get Clowney to commit, as well as Bruce Ellington. Lattimore also had higher stats against the the previous Big 3 of the east his freshman year.
During Lattimore's freshman game against UGA he had 37 carries, 182 yards, 2 TD's and shed 167 potential tacklers.
During Gurley's freshman game against USC, he had 13 carries for 39 yards, and 0 TD's.
Gurley had great stats against Buffalo, Mizzou, Fla Atlantic, and Georgia Tech...but he wasn't putting up the kind of stats Lattimore was against UGA, FL, or TN.
Gurley's Freshman Season.
199 Rushing Attempts
1260 Rushing Yards
16 Rushing TD's
15 Receptions
113 Rec Yards
0 Rec TD's
Lattimore Freshman Season.
249 Rushing Attempts
1197 Rushing Yards
17 Rushing TD's
29 Receptions
412 Rec Yards
2 Rec TD's
Lattimore had more total yards, TD's, was more of an every down RB and didn't have a backup RB as talented as Marshall. Lattimore helped us get Clowney to commit, as well as Bruce Ellington. Lattimore also had higher stats against the the previous Big 3 of the east his freshman year.
During Lattimore's freshman game against UGA he had 37 carries, 182 yards, 2 TD's and shed 167 potential tacklers.
During Gurley's freshman game against USC, he had 13 carries for 39 yards, and 0 TD's.
Gurley had great stats against Buffalo, Mizzou, Fla Atlantic, and Georgia Tech...but he wasn't putting up the kind of stats Lattimore was against UGA, FL, or TN.
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Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:24 pm to CockInYourEar
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Gurley had great stats against Buffalo, Mizzou, Fla Atlantic, and Georgia Tech...but he wasn't putting up the kind of stats Lattimore was against UGA, FL, or TN.
I'm sorry but do some fricking research.
Gurley
vs Bama: 122 yards 2 TD's
vs Tenn: 130 yards 3 TD's
vs UF: 118 yards 1 TD
vs Vandy 130 yards 2 TD's
You clearly showed your bias in this discussion because you assumed stats and it made you look like a moron.
ETA: BOOM BITCH
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:27 pm to CockInYourEar
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Gurley's Freshman Season.
199 Rushing Attempts
1260 Rushing Yards
16 Rushing TD's
15 Receptions
113 Rec Yards
0 Rec TD's
Lattimore Freshman Season.
249 Rushing Attempts
1197 Rushing Yards
17 Rushing TD's
29 Receptions
412 Rec Yards
2 Rec TD's
So Gurley had more yards on 50 (FIFTY) less carries, and only 1 less touchdown. Not to mention Gurley still has another game left to play. Gurley also averaged 6.3 yards per carry to Latt's 4.8, that's a pretty big disparity. Latt has the edge in receptions, but that's not really part of Gurley's game. He did, however, have a KO return for a TD.
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Latt was more of an every down RB
How do you figure? Gurley was unquestionably our #1 and got the bulk of the carries all season
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didn't have a backup RB as talented as Marshall
That would give the edge to Gurley, not Latt. Our staff was comfortable giving some carries to Marshall, who ran for like 800 yards. SC didn't trust their backup as much and therefore rode Latt as much as they could. If we didn't have anyone behind Gurley his numbers would be even better.
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Lattimore helped us get Clowney to commit, as well as Bruce Ellington.
what in the frick does this have to do with who's the better running back as a freshman
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Lattimore's freshman game against UGA he had 37 carries, 182 yards, 2 TD's
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Gurley's freshman game against USC, he had 13 carries for 39 yards, and 0 TD's
So you picked one game to compare stat lines, why is that? You realize Gurley and Latt weren't personally running against each other right?
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Gurley had great stats against Buffalo, Mizzou, Fla Atlantic, and Georgia Tech...but he wasn't putting up the kind of stats Lattimore was against UGA, FL, or TN.
UT: 24 carries for 130 yards and 3 TDs
UF: 27 for 118 and 1 TD (only back to go over 100 against UF)
Bama (#1 D in the country): 23 for 122 yards and 2 touchdowns
I'd say those are pretty good yes?
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:29 pm to WG_Dawg
What are the odds he avoids this thread?
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:31 pm to Ermahgerd
Lattimore healthy was probably best in a number of years in my opinion.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:32 pm to gatorhata9
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What are the odds he avoids this thread?
Based on history, I'd say low. He'll be back to say how lattimore has more heart or is more liked by teammates or beat UGA while Gurley couldn't beat SC or compare deadlift numbers or something.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:33 pm to nc14
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Lattimore healthy was probably best in a number of years in my opinion
Lattimore over his career has basically been in perma-beastmode, but the thread was just about their freshman years. And as CIYE posted their stats a few posts above, you can clearly see there isn't a whole lot of difference, with Gurley pretty much having the overall edge.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:35 pm to Ermahgerd
Gurley.
Lattimore is the kind of guy that physically peaked when he was 19 years old. He lost that weight to help his knees, and he wasn't the same. Now another knee issue... Gurley all day.
Lattimore is the kind of guy that physically peaked when he was 19 years old. He lost that weight to help his knees, and he wasn't the same. Now another knee issue... Gurley all day.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:36 pm to WG_Dawg
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with Gurley pretty much having the overall edge.
Yeah and the overall edge in talent. UGAs talent in 2012 >>> SC's 2010 talent. Especially on the Oline. And anyone who tries say the play of the OL isn't a big factor in an RBs #s are kidding themselves.
In 2010 Lattimore was really all we had. We had Jeffery sure but we also had very mediocre QB, OL, and backup RB play. When Lattimore wasn't playing we weren't winning. Gurley at least has a very solid QB slinging the ball around.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:40 pm to theGarnetWay
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Yeah and the overall edge in talent. UGAs talent in 2012 >>> SC's 2010 talent. Especially on the Oline. And anyone who tries say the play of the OL isn't a big factor in an RBs #s are kidding themselves.
Our o line was about as average as they come this year.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:40 pm to Ermahgerd
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Gurley or Lattimore
Depends how fast Lattimore's Hoveround is.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:40 pm to theGarnetWay
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In 2010 Lattimore was really all we had.
It's amazing how much SC fans undersell Alshon and Garcia. Garcia was inconsistent sure, but when he was feeling it he was a VERY good QB. And don't kid yourself in thinking Jeffrey isn't a top 2 receiver ever in your program's history. Lattimore may have been the star, but Jeffrey was just as lethal.
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Gurley at least has a very solid QB slinging the ball around
You could easily argue that that hurt Gurley's numbers, since we have a record breaking QB taking carries away from him to throw it around. I understand also that team's can't stack the box against us because of Murray, but team's couldn't really stack all day against yall either because of Jeffrey.
Also, the comparison was between 2 people, Gurley and Lattimore. Comparing OLs and backup RBs and QBs and WRs doesn't mean anything in this discussion.
This post was edited on 12/12/12 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:41 pm to WG_Dawg
Assume that Lattimore would have been healthy his entire career. "...after their freshman seasons"
Stats don't tell the entire story. Just from witnessing the two play, both were/are very impressive (understatement), I pick Lattimore. But very close.
Stats don't tell the entire story. Just from witnessing the two play, both were/are very impressive (understatement), I pick Lattimore. But very close.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:42 pm to WG_Dawg
What up WG. Both are studs. Gurley has a better RB frame than Latt IMO.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:42 pm to WG_Dawg
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but team's couldn't really stack all day against yall either because of Jeffrey.
Yeah they could. Garcia's inconsistency allowed teams to hone in on him when Lattimore was out and Garcia never had a prayer. It happened when Latti went out vs UK, Arky, and FSU in 2010.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:47 pm to AUtigerNOLA
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AUtigerNOLA
Not much man! Need to hit on tap again soon.
Yeah I mean nobody is taking anything away from Latt because he's obviously a stud, but when you look at the raw stats Gurley had a better year. Who knows how successful he'll be the next 2 years, but so far he's been just as good or better than Latt (when he was a freshman).
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:49 pm to theGarnetWay
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Garcia's inconsistency allowed teams to hone in on him when Lattimore was out and Garcia never had a prayer
So how did Jeffrey go over 1,500 yards in 2010?
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:50 pm to WG_Dawg
Definitely man just hit me up. Down whenever.
Agreed.
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Who knows how successful he'll be the next 2 years, but so far he's been just as good or better than Latt (when he was a freshman).
Agreed.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:51 pm to WG_Dawg
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So how did Jeffrey go over 1,500 yards in 2010?
Because Lattimore's God-like running abilities forced defenses to put 13 in the box.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:52 pm to WG_Dawg
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So how did Jeffrey go over 1,500 yards in 2010?
I was about to look up UGA's WR stats this year and then I realized we're arguing each other's opposite points.. or something.
I'm saying Lattimore was our only offense so teams could focus only on him.
You say no we had Jeffery so teams couldn't.
I'm saying Gurley has a lot more weapons so teams can't hone in on him.
You say because UGA has a better passing game than SC in 2010 that it could work against him because it would take away carries.
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