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Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:32 am to UASports23
Not reading this whole thread. He lead with shoulder, but hit helmet to helmet. I personally thought it should have been a 15 yarder.
Anyone saying he should be suspended for the next game should be saying that about the GA player too.
Edit: after the pick Murray is not the QB anymore. He is a defensive player.
Anyone saying he should be suspended for the next game should be saying that about the GA player too.
Edit: after the pick Murray is not the QB anymore. He is a defensive player.
This post was edited on 12/2/12 at 10:34 am
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:42 am to CrimsonRain
Penalty? maybe. Cheap shot? most def.
anyone who sees otherwise is looking through crimson shades. stop being subjective bama homers and admit, it was a cheap shot, uncalled for, and text book "unnecessary roughness" at the least.
if murray would have gotten hurt (and he easily could have) it would have been a cheap way to win a game.
anyone who sees otherwise is looking through crimson shades. stop being subjective bama homers and admit, it was a cheap shot, uncalled for, and text book "unnecessary roughness" at the least.
if murray would have gotten hurt (and he easily could have) it would have been a cheap way to win a game.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:43 am to UASports23
Looks like Murray needs to keep his head on a swivel.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:43 am to bama1959
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You guys realize he's not a QB at that point right? He's a defensive player after the Int. If you are a defensive player you have to watch out for blockers. Just cause he's sitting there with his thumb up his arse, napping, doesn't mean you can't take him out. This is football guys not golf. You need your shite wired at all times, lest you become a statistic.
It's not so much this as it is a Helmet-2-Helmet violation ... which I thought the League, NCAA & football in general was starting to take serious now and cut it out of the game
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Mike Slive suspended Trae Elston for this so called Helmet-2- Helmet hit
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Commissioner Mike Slive announced that the suspension was due to the hit he put on UTEP receiver Jordan Leslie late in the fourth quarter of last Saturday's 28-10 win that was deemed "flagrant and dangerous." The SEC also said that Elston's hit was in violation of Rule 9-1-4 of the NCAA rulebook, which reads:
"No player shall target and initiate contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, elbow or shoulder."
Rule 9-1-3 also states:
"No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet."
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Does this not at least warrant something close to the same actions as Trae's suspension or is this just going to be swept under the rug like Alabama's dirty suplex tackle
ETA: Trae DID NOT GET FLAGGED on they play but WAS SUSPENDED for the Texas game
This post was edited on 12/2/12 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:52 am to McRebel42
Was Murray a defenseless player in your opinion?
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:53 am to FlukerFlakes
All you people thinking this hit was in any way necessary are lying to yourselves. That hit was way behind the play. Murray didnt have a shot at tackling anyone. As a matter of fact I think the runner was falling to the ground as he was hit. It was blatant helmet to helmet and it was uncalled for. If there is any justice both the offending party and the official who blew an obvious call will be suspended for their final games this year
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 10:54 am to McRebel42
Murray was a defensive player. If our ball carrier was still up. Murray was fair game. I dont see what is so hard to understand about that.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:00 am to McRebel42
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McRebel42
The Elston hit was on a DEFENSELESS player (a receiver making a catch).
That has entirely different rules than a hit on a DEFENSIVE player (Aaron Murray jogging like a bish to make a tackle).
I love Dial's hit on Murray. Anytime you get a legal shot on the QB, you take it. This is football, not pussy football.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:01 am to Guava Jelly
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That hit was way behind the play
It was in front of the play actually
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Murray didnt have a shot at tackling anyone.
Would he have made the tackel? No. Did he have a shot? Yes. Should Dial assume he won't make the tackle?
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As a matter of fact I think the runner was falling to the ground as he was hit
Wrong again. Murray was laying on his back when the runner was tackled.
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It was blatant helmet to helmet
True but legal H2H in this case
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it was uncalled for
Matter of opinion. I would agree if it was well behind the play or after the tackle, but it wasn't.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:02 am to Funky Tide 8
It was a cheap blindside shot. He identified the QB headed for him and rolled him when he was down. Justify it anyway you want to but he wasn't trying to make a tackle.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:05 am to antibarner
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Who was the UGA player that got the flag for the blatant helmet to helmet hit on AJ?
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antibarner
God you Gumps are freaking dumb. The guy who hit Gay J obviously led with his shoulder. You people are completely dumb and ignorant to say that Dial hit Murray with his shoulder. I guess Milliner picked off that pass too right?
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:05 am to montrose
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Justify it anyway you want to but he wasn't trying to make a tackle.
He was jogging toward the guy with the ball. He wasn't trying very hard, but he was trying.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:05 am to montrose
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It was a cheap blindside shot. He identified the QB headed for him and rolled him when he was down. Justify it anyway you want to but he wasn't trying to make a tackle.
Who gives a shite. Hits like this happen all the time on kickoffs. No one cares about those because the dudes getting jacked up are walk ons or freshman linebackers no one knows about....unlike the choke artist Aaron Murray known to every football fan around the country as the dude that has never won 1 meaningful game in his entire career.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:06 am to j bro12
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God you Gumps are freaking dumb. The guy who hit Gay J obviously led with his shoulder. You people are completely dumb and ignorant to say that Dial hit Murray with his shoulder. I guess Milliner picked off that pass too right?
Good God, you are freaking dumb. If you hit helmet to helmet on the QB as he is throwing the ball at all....it is a penalty. That rule doesn't apply to a QB jogging to make a tackle.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:08 am to FlukerFlakes
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Anytime you get a legal shot on the QB, you take it. This is football, not pussy football.
Being an ex-defensive player(LB FWIW) I agree with you 100%
I guess what my point is ... with Trae's hit yes the guy was a DEFENSELESS player where as MURRAY'S WAS NOT but if the issue is HELMET-2-HELMET CONTACT ... Why do you pick and chose where to apply rulings???
Gump Hit is an obvious worse H-2-H than what Trae did ...
I ask does it really matter if the guy was defenseless or not if your TRUE CONCERN is HEAD TRAUMA???
BTW that might not be a concern of theirs
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:09 am to montrose
The next ten seconds of video show Murray looking around on the ground to see if theres any value in "hamming" it up. Cheap shot? Ok.Illegal? No flag was thrown. All you "class" guardians, I think the opera is in another building. Get over it. Going on about it is worse.
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:09 am to montrose
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:11 am to sarc
To defend this hit in 2012 is just wrong. When I played in the 70's sure -- great hit. I played until the whistle and still got blown up a couple of times. But, the rules have changed for better or worse and this hit was uncalled for in my opinion.
Do the Gumps really want to be mentioned in the same conversation as Fairley and company?
Do the Gumps really want to be mentioned in the same conversation as Fairley and company?
Posted on 12/2/12 at 11:12 am to runningdog
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To defend this hit in 2012 is just wrong. When I played in the 70's sure -- great hit. I played until the whistle and still got blown up a couple of times. But, the rules have changed for better or worse and this hit was uncalled for in my opinion.
Do the Gumps really want to be mentioned in the same conversation as Fairley and company?
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