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re: Fournette>Chubb
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:48 am to FlatwoodsForester
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:48 am to FlatwoodsForester
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First you stated LF had a tougher row to hoe due to playing in the West. That was debunked with the common opponents stats. Then you try to throw in "shared carries" as a reason LF's stats weren't as good. That's reaching.
Fine.
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No one really knows this.
Mock drafts say otherwise. I threw in the proper caveat after my implications.
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All depends on Chubb's recovery. Hope he comes back strong, but we'll have to wait and see.
Everyone who enjoys watching football hopes for the same
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Not really, been some low round draft picks that turned out to be great, and there's been some high round draft picks that were duds...Jamarcus Russell ring a bell.
So what round a player is drafted has no bearing on his perceived worth? This is news to me.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:49 am
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:49 am to TimTheTiger
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I suppose you could also break it down with number of touches that other RBs on the team got against common opponents, but then that'd really be splitting hairs.
You could do that. When you do, we will see if it has any relevance at all.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:50 am to djsdawg
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Since it's the kind of stat that would be seen on ESPN and CBS during a telecast, I am obviously not the only person interested in a fair and relevant comparison as you imply. What a ridiculous assertion that was on your part.
You just keep telling yourself that Chubb is better, without question.
I prefer to stay in reality.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:50 am to RB10
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I'm one of maybe 10 LSU fans I've seen on this site say Chubb was better than Fournette in 2014. Meanwhile, I've seen maybe 3 UGA fans say Fournette was better than Chubb in limited action in 2015. At this point, I'm also probably one of only 5 LSU/UGA posters here who will admit that if I had to give up my RB, and take the other, I'd be perfectly fine with it because they are 1a. and 1a-a, when Chubb is healthy.
I really think the difference in the two backs is so miniscule that there really isn't a point in arguing any of it other than the fact that its entertaining. Would happily take LF or Chubb.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:50 am to djsdawg
Did you read the last part?
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:51 am to FlatwoodsForester
2015 first five games:
Chubb: 91 carries 745 yards 7 TDs 8.1YPC
Fournette: 119 carries 1,022 yards 12 TDs 8.5YPC
Chubb: 91 carries 745 yards 7 TDs 8.1YPC
Fournette: 119 carries 1,022 yards 12 TDs 8.5YPC
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 11:55 am
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:53 am to hg
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urnette: 129 carries 1,022 yards 12 TDs 7.9YPC
119 for 1,022 and 12 TDs
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:54 am to RB10
Fixed
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:54 am to TimTheTiger
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Mock drafts say otherwise.
Keyword there. It's a guess. No one really knows. All depends on how each of them do this year.
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So what round a player is drafted has no bearing on his perceived worth? This is news to me.
Perceived worth doesn't exactly prove that one player is better than the other. Let's all get back together in about 10-15 years and discuss who had the better career. Only way to settle this.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:55 am to hg
I did it earlier. Thought I'd help you out before they jump on the incorrect YPC.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:56 am to FlatwoodsForester
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Let's all get back together in about 10-15 years and discuss who had the better career.
This is the part where I type "Bookmarked"
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:57 am to TimTheTiger
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I suppose you could also break it down with number of touches that other RBs on the team got against common opponents, but then that'd really be splitting hairs.
For '15 vs common opponents...
LF got...39 of 75 attempts or 52% of carries
Chubb got...41 of 76 or 54% of carries
For '14 vs common opponents...
LF got... 87 of 144 attempts or 60.4%
Chubb... 124 of 165 attempts or 75.1%
Posted on 3/8/16 at 11:59 am to RB10
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I'm one of maybe 10 LSU fans I've seen on this site say Chubb was better than Fournette in 2014. Meanwhile, I've seen maybe 3 UGA fans say Fournette was better than Chubb in limited action in 2015.
How much better?
Chubb was 1.53 ypc better in 2014.
LF was 0.40 ypc better before injury in 2015.
We saw LF fall off big time in the 2nd half of the season while Chubb was out, so its doubtful that small advantage would have remained once Chubb got to play Auburn.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:00 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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I really think the difference in the two backs is so miniscule that there really isn't a point in arguing any of it other than the fact that its entertaining. Would happily take LF or Chubb.
We are the exception, don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:00 pm to djsdawg
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We saw LF fall off big time in the 2nd half of the season while Chubb was out, so its doubtful that small advantage would have remained once Chubb got to play Auburn.
Case in point to my above post.
ETA: 900 yards and 10 TDs in 7 games is "falling off big time".
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:02 pm to djsdawg
Chubb also had 146 yards vs the 2015 Alabama defense on 20 attempts.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:03 pm to RB10
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You just keep telling yourself that Chubb is better, without question. I prefer to stay in reality.
So I guess you withdraw that ridiculous assertion? Welcome to reality.
When both were healthy, the numbers say what they say. Ignore that injury, but thats not reality, so that was a short stay in reality for you.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:04 pm to djsdawg
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So I guess you withdraw that ridiculous assertion? Welcome to reality.
When both were healthy, the numbers say what they say. Ignore that injury, but thats not reality, so that was a short stay in reality for you.
Delusion at it's finest in back to back posts. Nice.
Thanks for proving my point about the hypocrisy of each fan base from earlier, by the way.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:07 pm to RB10
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Case in point to my above post.
ETA: 900 yards and 10 TDs in 7 games is "falling off big time".
95 carries for 389 yards in 4 November games is "falling off big time."
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:09 pm to RB10
It sure does sound like somebody is salty that they're entitled to their own opinions but not their own set of facts.
That being said, I still like Fournette over Chubb.
That being said, I still like Fournette over Chubb.
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