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re: For all of you over the age of 35
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:16 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:16 am to WildTchoupitoulas
What is Harrison had praise for Kaminsky and had said, "that n***a balled out tonight"?
Would there be an uproar?
Would there be an uproar?
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:17 am to GCTiger11
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9 times out of 10 it's said without racial intent.
Just because it's used mindlessly by the speaker doesn't remove its pejorative nature.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:18 am to Roses of Crimson
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For those of you UNDER the age of 35 there is a certain way you are to conduct yourself as a human being. Whether its a racial slur, negative conatation, slang, whatever you want to call it, there should be certain lines you don't cross. Talking with your buddies or something is one thing but the public arena is completely different. You should never approach something that could even be considered to be taken the wrong way. If it's questionable, you don't do it. Especially at a press conference during the NCAA Final Four. No, there is no excuse for using this word or many others. It's wrong no matter what age you are.
No one is defending harrison for insulting Kaminsky. He came off as a little bitch because of it. But to say he's a racist is just comical
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:20 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Just because it's used mindlessly by the speaker doesn't remove its pejorative nature.
yes it does.
the only thing makes it pejorative would be how it's accepted.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:20 am to GCTiger11
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Would there be an uproar?
Whether there would be an uproar or not has no bearing on whether or not n***** a racist slur. It just is, regardless of stupid kids using it in the context of sports.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:22 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:how many times have the guys on here called another poster a bitch, a derogatory slur meant for women, mindlessly with no disparaging intent behind it? Hell, I just did it in this thread
Just because it's used mindlessly by the speaker doesn't remove its pejorative nature.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:23 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Whether there would be an uproar or not has no bearing on whether or not n***** a racist slur. It just is, regardless of stupid kids using it in the context of sports.
A word can not be racist. It's intent is what determines that.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:24 am to Roses of Crimson
It's simple as this.
Was it a shitty, demeaning thing to say? Yes
Was it racist given the context? No.
People calling for him to be kicked off the team, expelled, and just short of drawn and quartered is ridiculous. Harrison called and talked to Kaminsky and they're good. It should be up to Cal and the University as to what they want to do and honestly, it shouldn't be much for a kid who has a clean slate outside of this slip up.
The reality is I've seen far less called for regarding the multiple kids who have been given "second chances" for gun, drug, and assault charges on their respective SEC football and basketball teams. So there's a whole lot of hypocrites rolling in this thread.
Was it a shitty, demeaning thing to say? Yes
Was it racist given the context? No.
People calling for him to be kicked off the team, expelled, and just short of drawn and quartered is ridiculous. Harrison called and talked to Kaminsky and they're good. It should be up to Cal and the University as to what they want to do and honestly, it shouldn't be much for a kid who has a clean slate outside of this slip up.
The reality is I've seen far less called for regarding the multiple kids who have been given "second chances" for gun, drug, and assault charges on their respective SEC football and basketball teams. So there's a whole lot of hypocrites rolling in this thread.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:24 am to GCTiger11
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What is Harrison had praise for Kaminsky and had said, "that n***a balled out tonight"? Would there be an uproar?
no. however, he did use it in a derogatory manner- frick that friend? no, it's frick that a-hole, frick that son of a bitch, frick that bastard- all of those are derogatory so therefore harrison used the word with a negative connotation. which leaves me a bit perplexed since i thought the original intent of the 'a' was to mean a bud or a pal- something positive.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:27 am to piggilicious
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no. however, he did use it in a derogatory manner- frick that friend? no, it's frick that a-hole, frick that son of a bitch, frick that bastard- all of those are derogatory so therefore harrison used the word with a negative connotation. which leaves me a bit perplexed since i thought the original intent of the 'a' was to mean a bud or a pal- something positive.
I took it almost as a compliment. If I come out and have a good game and someone says "frick that ni**a" I assume it's because he's butthurt that I played so well.
I would not assume that he actually meant it.
Honest question, do yall have any black friends?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:28 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:i see why the title of this thread is what it is
Whether there would be an uproar or not has no bearing on whether or not n***** a racist slur.
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It just is, regardless of stupid kids using it in the context of sports.
Have you ever seen a black comedy? A black stand-up comedian? The context in which that word is used determines everything about the intent of the speaker of it
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:28 am to UnAnon
I'm over 40, and you just rambled off the stupidest shite I've ever heard.
It most certainly is/was a racial slur. You little punks who vomit that BS about how if someone black says it, it's not meant to be prejudice - are full of shite.
It most certainly is/was a racial slur. You little punks who vomit that BS about how if someone black says it, it's not meant to be prejudice - are full of shite.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:28 am to cas4t
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yes it does.
No, it doesn't.
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the only thing makes it pejorative would be how it's accepted.
Correct, and you just contradicted yourself. It's how a n***** interprets it that makes it a pejorative or not.
Some n*****s don't want to be called a n***** even by other n*****s. That's their prerogative.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:29 am to lsufan31
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You little punks who vomit that BS about how if someone black says it, it's not meant to be prejudice - are full of shite.
Ah yes, when a black person says "wassup my nig*a" to one of his friends, he is in fact being a racist bigot.
yall are so hell bent on this and it's hilarious.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:30 am to cas4t
i have plenty non caucasian friends (black, asian, hispanic- etc), but none of them use the word- or not around me anyway. of course, i'm not in my 20's either.
the closest i get to using anything of the sort is occasionally i'll use oriental to my asian friend just because i know it annoys her- she tells me that's only for rugs.
the closest i get to using anything of the sort is occasionally i'll use oriental to my asian friend just because i know it annoys her- she tells me that's only for rugs.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:31 am to piggilicious
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no. however, he did use it in a derogatory manner- frick that friend? no, it's frick that a-hole, frick that son of a bitch, frick that bastard- all of those are derogatory so therefore harrison used the word with a negative connotation. which leaves me a bit perplexed since i thought the original intent of the 'a' was to mean a bud or a pal- something positive.
Yeah he insulted him which is where the outrage should be. Not that the fact he said, "n***a". And the word isn't exclusively used as something positive. If you want a comparable "white" term, I guess you can say it's literally the same as "man"
"What's up my man"
"frick that man"
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:33 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Some n*****s don't want to be called a n***** even by other n*****s. That's their prerogative.
so now we are just playing in hypotheticals?
I know a lot of black people. I'm from New Orleans. I played basketball for 15ish years. I also lived in a troubled neighborhood in Tennessee and about 80% of my friends and teammates were black. I've never met one black person who gets upset at another black person for calling him "nig*a". Not once.
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It's how a n***** interprets it that makes it a pejorative or not.
That's my point. Whether yall agree with it or not, it's a term that's accepted largely in the black community.
Harrison clearly did not mean it in a racist manner.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:34 am to GCTiger11
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how many times have the guys on here called another poster a bitch, a derogatory slur meant for women, mindlessly with no disparaging intent behind it? Hell, I just did it in this thread
I don't know, how many?
Regardless of your answer, it doesn't matter if you don't intend insult, the word can still be insulting. I'm sorry you don't understand this, but it seems like now would be a good time for you to learn it.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:34 am to cas4t
I work in an industry where people don't use that word, and would be highly offended is some punk said "what's up my nigg*". Our society has come a long way in 30 years, and it's piss ant punks who use that word, in any context.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:34 am to lsufan31
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You little punks who vomit that BS about how if someone black says it, it's not meant to be prejudice - are full of shite.
Well then I guess blacks are the most racist towards fellow blacks. The context of the word is everything. There was no racist intent behind this. Kaminsky is fricking WHITE for god's sake. I guarantee you Harrison has called his teammates the same exact thing, but in a positive context. That's not racist no matter how bad you want it to be, grandpa
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