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Final SEC & Playoff Participants/Hopeful Rankings by various computer models
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:09 pm
SAGARIN
1. Alabama
3. Georgia
8. Auburn
18. LSU
20. Mississippi State
42. South Carolina
45. Texas A&M
46. Missouri
59. Ole Miss
63. Florida
72. Kentucky
75. Arkansas
83. Vanderbilt
116. Tennessee
ELO CHESS
2. Alabama
5. Georgia
10. Auburn
13. LSU
31. South Carolina
35. Texas A&M
36. Mississippi State
42. Missouri
48. Kentucky
54. Ole Miss
63. Florida
79. Vanderbilt
86. Tennessee
89. Arkansas
MASSEY COMPOSITE
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
8. Auburn
20. LSU
25. Mississippi State
36. South Carolina
43. Texas A&M
49. Missouri
58. Kentucky
61. Ole Miss
68. Florida
83. Vanderbilt
93. Tennessee
S&P+
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
10. Auburn
20. LSU
26. Mississippi State
32. Missouri
46. Ole Miss
64. Texas A&M
66. South Carolina
81. Vanderbilt
87. Florida
92. Arkansas
94. Kentucky
107. Tennessee
ESPN FPI
1. Alabama
5. Georgia
6. Auburn
17. LSU
19. Mississippi State
35. Missouri
36. South Carolina
44. Texas A&M
51. Florida
55. Ole Miss
59. Kentucky
70. Arkansas
75. Tennessee
77. Vanderbilt
OTHERS
Ohio State
Sagarin - #4
Elo Chess - #4
Massey Composite - #4
S&P+ - #1
ESPN FPI - #2
USC
Sagarin - #13
Elo Chess - #7
Massey Composite - #12
S&P+ - #22
ESPN FPI - #14
Wisconsin
Sagarin - #7
Elo Chess - #6
Massey Composite - #6
S&P+ - #6
ESPN FPI - #9
UCF
Sagarin - #16
Elo Chess - #9
Massey Composite - #9
S&P+ - #9
ESPN FPI - #21
Oklahoma
Sagarin - #5
Elo Chess - #3
Massey Composite - #5
S&P+ - #8
ESPN FPI - #7
Clemson
Sagarin - #2
Elo Chess - #1
Massey Composite - #1
S&P+ - #7
ESPN FPI - #3
Miami
Sagarin - #15
Elo Chess - #11
Massey Composite - #13
S&P+ - #19
ESPN FPI - #15
Notre Dame
Sagarin - #10
Elo Chess - #16
Massey Composite - #10
S&P+ - #14
ESPN FPI - #10
1. Alabama
3. Georgia
8. Auburn
18. LSU
20. Mississippi State
42. South Carolina
45. Texas A&M
46. Missouri
59. Ole Miss
63. Florida
72. Kentucky
75. Arkansas
83. Vanderbilt
116. Tennessee
ELO CHESS
2. Alabama
5. Georgia
10. Auburn
13. LSU
31. South Carolina
35. Texas A&M
36. Mississippi State
42. Missouri
48. Kentucky
54. Ole Miss
63. Florida
79. Vanderbilt
86. Tennessee
89. Arkansas
MASSEY COMPOSITE
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
8. Auburn
20. LSU
25. Mississippi State
36. South Carolina
43. Texas A&M
49. Missouri
58. Kentucky
61. Ole Miss
68. Florida
83. Vanderbilt
93. Tennessee
S&P+
2. Alabama
3. Georgia
10. Auburn
20. LSU
26. Mississippi State
32. Missouri
46. Ole Miss
64. Texas A&M
66. South Carolina
81. Vanderbilt
87. Florida
92. Arkansas
94. Kentucky
107. Tennessee
ESPN FPI
1. Alabama
5. Georgia
6. Auburn
17. LSU
19. Mississippi State
35. Missouri
36. South Carolina
44. Texas A&M
51. Florida
55. Ole Miss
59. Kentucky
70. Arkansas
75. Tennessee
77. Vanderbilt
OTHERS
Ohio State
Sagarin - #4
Elo Chess - #4
Massey Composite - #4
S&P+ - #1
ESPN FPI - #2
USC
Sagarin - #13
Elo Chess - #7
Massey Composite - #12
S&P+ - #22
ESPN FPI - #14
Wisconsin
Sagarin - #7
Elo Chess - #6
Massey Composite - #6
S&P+ - #6
ESPN FPI - #9
UCF
Sagarin - #16
Elo Chess - #9
Massey Composite - #9
S&P+ - #9
ESPN FPI - #21
Oklahoma
Sagarin - #5
Elo Chess - #3
Massey Composite - #5
S&P+ - #8
ESPN FPI - #7
Clemson
Sagarin - #2
Elo Chess - #1
Massey Composite - #1
S&P+ - #7
ESPN FPI - #3
Miami
Sagarin - #15
Elo Chess - #11
Massey Composite - #13
S&P+ - #19
ESPN FPI - #15
Notre Dame
Sagarin - #10
Elo Chess - #16
Massey Composite - #10
S&P+ - #14
ESPN FPI - #10
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:30 pm
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Enjoy the Orange Bowl, Gump
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Can you post OSU, USC, Wisky and UCF rankings too?
OU, Clemson, Miami and ND too. Just curious
OU, Clemson, Miami and ND too. Just curious
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:21 pm to craigbiggio
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Can you post OSU, USC, Wisky and UCF rankings too? Clemson, Miami and ND too. Just curious
Sure. The argument to made from the Computer standpoint is that Ohio State's argument is not with Alabama but with Oklahoma.
Ohio State
Sagarin - #4
Elo Chess - #4
Massey Composite - #4
S&P+ - #1
ESPN FPI - #2
USC
Sagarin - #13
Elo Chess - #7
Massey Composite - #12
S&P+ - #22
ESPN FPI - #14
Wisconsin
Sagarin - #7
Elo Chess - #6
Massey Composite - #6
S&P+ - #6
ESPN FPI - #9
UCF
Sagarin - #16
Elo Chess - #9
Massey Composite - #9
S&P+ - #9
ESPN FPI - #21
Oklahoma
Sagarin - #5
Elo Chess - #3
Massey Composite - #5
S&P+ - #8
ESPN FPI - #7
Clemson
Sagarin - #2
Elo Chess - #1
Massey Composite - #1
S&P+ - #7
ESPN FPI - #3
Miami
Sagarin - #15
Elo Chess - #11
Massey Composite - #13
S&P+ - #19
ESPN FPI - #15
Notre Dame
Sagarin - #10
Elo Chess - #16
Massey Composite - #10
S&P+ - #14
ESPN FPI - #10
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It is pretty interesting how most of them line up pretty closely with eachother on the "resume" judging side (Sagarin/Elo Chess/Massey).
FPI and S&P+ try to measure how good a team is, not what they have accomplished, so those vary in some cases.
FPI and S&P+ try to measure how good a team is, not what they have accomplished, so those vary in some cases.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Ohio State
Sagarin - #4
Elo Chess - #4
Massey Composite - #4
S&P+ - #1
ESPN FPI - #2
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:34 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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DisplacedBuckeye
Yep - per the computers Alabama and Ohio State should have been in with zero doubts. Clemson and Georgia pretty much the same.
Oklahoma........not so much. I think they really, really lucked out to have their "big win" be specifically against Ohio State. It kind of destroyed any questioning of them and their resume/team/terribe league at all.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
DisplacedBuckeye
You'd be better off finding a Big12 board. George addressed it above. You were placed above Oklahoma, not Alabama.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
#1 Clemson (Top 4 in 4/6)
Sagarin - #2
Elo Chess - #1
Massey Composite - #1
S&P+ - #7
ESPN FPI - #3
S&P+ Resume Rank - #5
#2 Oklahoma (Top 4 in 1/6)
Sagarin - #5
Elo Chess - #3
Massey Composite - #5
S&P+ - #8
ESPN FPI - #7
S&P+ Resume Rank - #9
#3 Georgia (Top 4 in 5/6)
Sagarin - #3
Elo Chess - #5
Massey Composite - #2
S&P+ - #3
ESPN FPI - #5
S&P+ Resume Rank - #4
#4 Alabama (Top 4 in 6/6)
Sagarin - #1
Elo Chess - #2
Massey Composite - #3
S&P+ - #2
ESPN FPI - #1
S&P+ Resume Rank - #1
#5 Ohio State (Top 4 in 6/6)
Sagarin - #4
Elo Chess - #4
Massey Composite - #4
S&P+ - #1
ESPN FPI - #2
S&P+ Resume Rank - #3
Sagarin - #2
Elo Chess - #1
Massey Composite - #1
S&P+ - #7
ESPN FPI - #3
S&P+ Resume Rank - #5
#2 Oklahoma (Top 4 in 1/6)
Sagarin - #5
Elo Chess - #3
Massey Composite - #5
S&P+ - #8
ESPN FPI - #7
S&P+ Resume Rank - #9
#3 Georgia (Top 4 in 5/6)
Sagarin - #3
Elo Chess - #5
Massey Composite - #2
S&P+ - #3
ESPN FPI - #5
S&P+ Resume Rank - #4
#4 Alabama (Top 4 in 6/6)
Sagarin - #1
Elo Chess - #2
Massey Composite - #3
S&P+ - #2
ESPN FPI - #1
S&P+ Resume Rank - #1
#5 Ohio State (Top 4 in 6/6)
Sagarin - #4
Elo Chess - #4
Massey Composite - #4
S&P+ - #1
ESPN FPI - #2
S&P+ Resume Rank - #3
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:43 pm to JustGetItRight
Cool fricking story.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:
What if we took the Strength of Record idea and added an extra level of team quality to it?
Introducing Résumé S&P+.
I’m going to introduce my takes on two pretty familiar concepts.
There are countless ways to measure one’s strength of schedule, but I’m going to choose one most directly tied to the national title race. Makes sense, since “strength of schedule” is right there in the mission statement.
Below are each FBS team’s rankings in three categories:
• S&P+, an overall team efficiency rating system you can read more about here. It can be used to predict wins and losses going forward.
• Strength of Schedule (SOS), which amounts to how well the average top-five team (according to S&P+) would fare, in terms of win percentage, against your schedule. The lower the number, the harder the schedule.
• Résumé S&P+, which looks at a team’s season scoring margin and compares it to what the average top-five team’s scoring margin would likely be against the schedule at hand. If the number is positive (and for most, it won’t be), that means said team is faring better then the typical top-five team. Instead of any advanced stats or win probability info, I’m adhering strictly to actual margins.
quote:
Example : Alabama
The Crimson Tide are currently second in overall S&P+. Their schedule strength ranks 34th; if the average top-five team played Alabama’s previous opponents a countless number of times, they would win about 79 percent of those games. The Tide have won 92 percent of their games, with an average scoring margin about 12.5 points per game higher than said average top-five team.
Compare that to the schedule of someone like Auburn. The average top-five team would have a win percentage of only about 73 percent against the Tigers’ slate. Those tiny differences can add up; Auburn’s been a legitimate top-10 team with a top-10 résumé but has still suffered three losses.
S&P+ Resume Rankings
1. Alabama
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
4. Georgia
5. Clemson
6. Wisconsin
7. Auburn
8. Washington
9. Oklahoma
10. Central Florida
11. Notre Dame
12. Oklahoma State
13. TCU
14. Mississippi State
15. Florida Atlantic
16. Virginia Tech
17. Stanford
18. Iowa
19. Memphis
20. Miami
21. Louisville
22. Boise State
23. LSU
24. Northwestern
25. Michigan
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:
1. Alabama
2. Penn State
3. Ohio State
4. Georgia
I like it.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:53 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
I like it.
LOL - that would be some fun outrage.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
The rest of the country would stop playing football.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
The rest of the country would stop playing football.
As long as Oklahoma, Texas, Florida State, Clemson, USC and maybe Washington kept it up I think I could live with that.
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