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re: FBI complicit in the NCAA/SEC conspiracy to let AU off the hook?

Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by MaroonNation
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:52 pm to
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If that's the case, dont you think Cecil would've been a good source if they were trying to find out which boosters are throwing around money?

I cant think of a better person to speak with than Cecil


Considering the amount of lies that Cecil has already been found to be guilty of I would think the FBI may be smart enough to not believe shite he says. Therefore, probably not a high value person in their eyes
Posted by MaroonNation
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 10:58 pm to
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help me understand why they would interview John Bond who has no affiliation with AU


The casino is bringing in politicians and such to win money basically under the table win no trace and no taxes. So maybe Bond knew something about this or was a participant.


Jesus people, how closed minded are you. John Bond was the person who admitted that someone called him trying to sell Can to State on behalf of Cecil Newton. He said that other schools were involoved, accoeding to the statement released by Bond's attorney. They probably wanted to know if he mentioned who these other schools were.
Posted by AUfan87
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:03 pm to
This bingo/casino raid is just a fantasy for the people that want AU to go down. Ever since the Milton McGregor suspicion came out (which was shot down by multiple media reports on the same day), people have wanted to think the casino/bingo thing magically has something to do with Cam Newton. There's nothing to it and, other than the brief one-day Milton McGregor inquisition, nothing has been brought up about it through the media. Other than Cam and his family, everybody else being interviewed is associated with Miss. St. This isn't an AU problem, and for those of you think the Cam Newton story is just the beginning of some BIGGER uncovering, you're going to be sorely disappointed.
Posted by MaroonNation
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:10 pm to
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IMO, if that was the case, Cecil would be a good source of where the money is coming from if he got paid 200k

Cecil's door would've been the first door I knocked on if i were an investigator


Y'all aren't familiar with Federal investigations then. If their is something there, and we all know there is, they are going to build a case in this order. They are going to see the allegation, they are going to take the radius of the investigation all the way out as far as they think they will get/find pertinent evidence. Then they start working inwards towards the focus of the investigation. This serves to take away options when they get to the main people involved. They will already have all exits blocked and snipers in the windows when they come down and bring the wrath of God with them. Did McGregor/Gilley? know their phones were tapped? No they didn't. That is the way the FBI works. They will know all they need to know when they finally get to the big players in this and they will have already investigated to the point of giving the people in question 2 options: 1. Tell the truth or 2. Purgor themselves
Posted by e2drummer
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:15 pm to
I have a feeling you conspiracy theorists are going to be disappointed when this is finally over.

McGregor may be dirty as frick, but I've heard of nothing other than wild speculation that directly ties him to Auburn recruiting.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 11:24 pm
Posted by AUfan87
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:20 pm to
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I have a feeling you conspiracy theorists are going to be disappointed when this is finally over.

McGregor may be dirty as frick, but I heard of nothing other than wild speculation that directly ties him to Auburn recruiting.


They're just reaching brah. Let 'em reach!
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 11:21 pm
Posted by MaroonNation
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:20 pm to
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FBI complicit in the NCAA/SEC conspiracy to let AU off the hook?
I have a feeling you conspiracy theorists are going to be disappointed when this is finally over.

McGregor may be dirty as frick, but I heard of nothing other than wild speculation that directly ties him to Auburn recruiting.


Unfortunatly, the FBI is holding the evidence. What the evidence contains, who knows? But they will not give it up till they are satified that they have all the major players by the balls.
Posted by AUfan87
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:22 pm to
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Unfortunatly, the FBI is holding the evidence. What the evidence contains, who knows? But they will not give it up till they are satified that they have all the major players by the balls.


The FBI isn't holding any evidence, at least not from the NCAA. If they have something, they have informed the NCAA so the NCAA can act on it ASAP. If the FBI had something damning, Cam would be ineligible. Period.
Posted by e2drummer
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:29 pm to
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Unfortunatly, the FBI is holding the evidence. What the evidence contains, who knows? But they will not give it up till they are satified that they have all the major players by the balls.

So since no one knows what evidence the FBI has, just like we don't know there isn't any evidence against Auburn, how do you know there IS evidence against Auburn?

We can at least say that neither Cecil or Kenny Rogers have been interviewed by the FBI. What can you point to that tells you they are actually collecting evidence against Auburn?
Posted by Uncle Miltie
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:29 pm to
The Cam deal is just the smoke and mirrors part of the deal, the real deal is with Auburn BOT and loans and cash and chips. Auburn is ALL IN, And here comes the river card ! Oooh, it's the ace of.....lack of institutional control...
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:31 pm to
He just wants it to be true so it doesn't reflect poorly on his school that Cam needed money to go there but not Auburn
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34942 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:38 pm to
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Y'all aren't familiar with Federal investigations then. If their is something there, and we all know there is, they are going to build a case in this order. They are going to see the allegation, they are going to take the radius of the investigation all the way out as far as they think they will get/find pertinent evidence. Then they start working inwards towards the focus of the investigation. This serves to take away options when they get to the main people involved. They will already have all exits blocked and snipers in the windows when they come down and bring the wrath of God with them. Did McGregor/Gilley? know their phones were tapped? No they didn't. That is the way the FBI works. They will know all they need to know when they finally get to the big players in this and they will have already investigated to the point of giving the people in question 2 options: 1. Tell the truth or 2. Purgor themselves
You are right. I do not know how federal investigations work. However, the FBI does not give two hoots about Auburn and Cam. The only way (do I need to embolden the only way part?) the FBI cares what happened with Auburn and Cam is if some of the illegal stuff going down with the lobbyists/legislators/bankers results in indictments that in some way in the future, the NCAA would have to finally deal with. Aside from that, y'all howl up the tree all you want but there is nothing in the Alabama FBI investigation unless there is collateral damage that is stumbled over by the FBI.
Posted by MaroonNation
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:40 pm to
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He just wants it to be true so it doesn't reflect poorly on his school that Cam needed money to go there but not Auburn


"The money was too much" Cam Newton
Posted by T Rey WI
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:47 pm to
Just a thought, the FBI's involvement started (openly) when they stated they were investigating the shopping of student athletes. When they spoke with Bond/Bell they got the info they were after so there was no need to talk with Rogers or Cecil, unless they had more info linking Rogers to another school or other players. Cecil admitted he asked for cash from MSU so unless they have information about the same request with other agents then anything he says would not help their investigation.

Their time is being spent on issues way beyond Cam, Auburn, The SEC and the NCAA. Some of those investigations may or may not cross back into NCAA territory. If it has or does they will not share the info with the NCAA until they have indictments in place. No need to spend time worring about the FBI. Whatever happens there will come well after the other cases are ready to hit the courtroom.

The thing to watch and worry about is what fallout may come from the other areas that the FBI is working on. None of us yet know who or what those have crossed into but their are alot of people in the political and banking world that have major concerns. Those concerns may or may not hurt any number of Universities and their athletic programs.

My guess is that there will be fallout and it is not likely to stop at the steps of any one institution of higher learning and certainly not at the feet of one singular player even if he is the best player in college football this year. So keep you eye on the actions of Mike Slive, the State House in Montgomery and the words spoken by the new Governor of Alabama after he takes office.

We do live in interesting times.
Posted by CaseyMc2
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:51 pm to
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"The money was too much" Cam Newton


How I wished Fowler would have asked Cam about that statement and what he meant by it. I believe he would have stumbled all over himself had it been asked, because he contredicted himself when he said it was himself that made the decision to go to Auburn when at first all he ever said was the decision was made by his Dad. Now when a person gives two different answers to a single question which answer is correct. I believe he doesn't know himself because he is all about Cam and screw Auburn and Miss St and the NCAA and the SEC anyone else that wants to know what happened just NFL give me my money.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:52 pm to
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T Rey WI
You do actually realize that the Kenny Rogers' FBI investigation has absolutely nothing to do with the one going on in Alabama right?
Posted by CaseyMc2
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:56 pm to
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You do actually realize that the Kenny Rogers' FBI investigation has absolutely nothing to do with the one going on in Alabama right?


It is not the center of the investigation but it is in there to be used however the FBI sees fit.
Posted by T Rey WI
Back in the south where I belong!
Member since Dec 2010
2937 posts
Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:56 pm to
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You do actually realize that the Kenny Rogers' FBI investigation has absolutely nothing to do with the one going on in Alabama right?


That is the way I read it.

The Rogers investigation is stand-alone unless it gave them something that folds into other things they are watching.
This post was edited on 12/10/10 at 11:58 pm
Posted by CaseyMc2
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/10/10 at 11:58 pm to
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That is the way I read it.


We are reading the same way Brah!
Posted by WarEagleTwentyFour
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/11/10 at 12:18 am to
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Multiple media sources are saying the lid is getting ready to blow off of this thing.....



If this had any truth Barrett Trotter would have started last Saturday
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