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re: ESPN/CBS numbers = $28.5 million/yr per school

Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:38 am to
Posted by CassiusClay
Member since Aug 2011
820 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:38 am to
Expected $30 mil-ish...mizzou should pay everyone else a share since they suck and all.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5033 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:39 am to


We have owned you for a decade. So will you be paying us?
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1389 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:30 pm to
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It appears this $$ figure is ONLY for tier 1 and tier 2 rights


Not bad, I was hoping for $30MM+ per team just in broadcast rights though.

Keep in mind the gross $ generated by the SEC network will be split some %-wise with ESPN & maybe also IMG/Learfield/etc. So that $360MM/year from 30MM households @$1/month is $12.24MM per team per year (figuring 51% equity and an equal share to the SEC office).
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:30 pm to
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$28.5 million/yr per school


watered down because of fricking noobs
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Keep in mind the gross $$ generated by the SEC network will be split some %-wise with ESPN & maybe also IMG/Learfield/etc. So that $360MM/year from 30MM households @$1/month is $12.24MM per team per year (figuring 51% equity and an equal share to the SEC office).


Correct -- which confirms that the $28.5 number is either bs -- or doesn't include the expected revenue from the new network in it's projection. It would mean that CBS and ESPN actually renegotiated for less overall money in tier 1 and tier 2 rights in order to make that $28.5mil number -- to about $16.26mil/team -- which we all know is complete and total horse shite.

We will be at $35mil/tm + in year one with the SEC network(2014-2015). Said it all along -- not backing down from it now.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:43 pm to
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Keep in mind the gross $ generated by the SEC network will be split some %-wise with ESPN & maybe also IMG/Learfield/etc. So that $360MM/year from 30MM households @$1/month is $12.24MM per team per year (figuring 51% equity and an equal share to the SEC office).

There was specific language in the SBD article that said those guys were bought out and will have no part. XOS was also bought out of the digital rights and is something that is going to be worth a bit down the road I believe.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8796 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:45 pm to
We could just divide it by TV sets then. So A&M gets the share for all the Texas TV's, Mizzou gets the Mizzou TV's, and the Mississippi, Bama, and Tennessee schools can split their state's revenue. Essentially A&M and Florida would get well over half the revenue in that case since that is where the revenue comes from.

Or you could quit whining about the "newbies" who are making so much money for the conference in this deal. It's all about subscribers.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30859 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:51 pm to
28 million and that's it?

Can we kick Texas A&M and Missouri out of the conference now? The money grab did not work.
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 12:51 pm to
Hopeful am I that the money will be divided pro rata, dependent on number of years in the conference.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:00 pm to
that's a lot lower than I was looking for. I was thinking in the $700M range with ad revenue bringing in an additional $100-150M.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
527 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:11 pm to
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We could just divide it by TV sets then. So A&M gets the share for all the Texas TV's, Mizzou gets the Mizzou TV's, and the Mississippi, Bama, and Tennessee schools can split their state's revenue. Essentially A&M and Florida would get well over half the revenue in that case since that is where the revenue comes from. Or you could quit whining about the "newbies" who are making so much money for the conference in this deal. It's all about subscribers.


Yet somehow we were still raking it in well before you came, while you had a second rate deal in the Big 12 with all your television sets.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18451 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:34 pm to
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aggressor
quote:

We could just divide it by TV sets then.


you.

quote:

Birmingham, Ala. and Columbus, Ohio, rank among the highest-rated markets every year for strongest markets for college football viewership. However, a somewhat surprising finding was they are the only two markets to be in the top spot for all 12 years, and the Alabama market was No. 1 in 11 of the 12 seasons.


quote:

Highlights from 2000-2011:

Top Two:Birmingham, Ala., and Columbus, Ohio, are the only markets to finish in the highest-rated spot as well as in the top five all 12 years:

. Birmingham was the top-rated metered market every year except 2001 when Columbus knocked the Alabama city to second.


quote:

Top Five Markets:Thirteen markets have been in the top five highest-rated at least once from 2000 to 2011.

. Birmingham and Columbus are the only markets to go 12 for 12.


LINK

Top 25 Markets for 2011 (I posted the top 10)
No. 1 Birmingham: 5.9 rating
No. 2 Oklahoma City: 4.3 rating
Columbus: 4.3 rating
No. 4 Greenville: 4.1 rating
No. 5 New Orleans: 3.4 rating
Atlanta: 3.4 rating
No. 7 Jacksonville: 3.3 rating
Tulsa: 3.3 rating
No. 9 Las Vegas: 3.2 rating
No. 10 Knoxville: 3.0 rating
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
527 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:51 pm to
That article had the top 29 college football markets, and one was in Texas. And it was Austin!

12 were in pre-existing SEC markets.

Thank God for A&M!!
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:56 pm to
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Mizzou should only get $4mil


if anything they should have to make payments for membership
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

That article had the top 29 college football markets, and one was in Texas. And it was Austin!

12 were in pre-existing SEC markets.

Thank God for A&M!!



First of all, you're a fricking moron. College football markets =/= top television markets. That is what brings in the TV $. That is why A&M was added (DFW and Houston are both top 10 TV markets).

Secondly, Austin, Tx was the city with the highest TV ratings for the highest rated game of 2012, a game that featured Texas A&M.

Get fricked, douchebag.
Posted by PepaSpray
Adamantium Membership
Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 2:34 pm to
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Is a full ride (say 20K a year)
id say it is way more than 20K. These kids get the best nutritionists, best trainers, best surgeons and injury rehab specialists, best tutors, and have their foot in the door for jobs all across the southeast if they don't last long in the nfl (or go at all).

That total is a lot higher than 20K IMO.

ETA: and their multi million dollar weight rooms are pretty slick. Their steak dinners aren't that cheap. 20k? That's gone before freshman year if they had to pay for these things.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 2:37 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 3:04 pm to
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that's a lot lower than I was looking for. I was thinking in the $700M range with ad revenue bringing in an additional $100-150M.


Again, that's not the total number -- just the renegotiation of what we've got now(tier 1 and 2) without including the network.

That was terribly worded -- and a ridiculous article to put out there right now. Just wait on the damn announcement, CBS.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8796 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:11 pm to
You do realize that article takes some arbitrary number and then rates the percentage viewership in that level of population city right? I mean you could throw BCS in there and it would be Top 10 as well I'm sure.

The factor that matters though is how many people are subscribing though, not the ratings. There are more than a million additional people in the Houston metro alone than the entire State of Alabama. If the SEC Network is carried on basic packages in Texas (which it is likely to be) the value A&M brings to the contract is thus far more in terms of raw dollars, esp because there are 2 SEC schools in Alabama.

Of course the entire argument is ridiculous because the SEC operates as a full sharing league. That's why it is so strong. I just wanted to point out how equally foolish it is for folks to say you should "kick out the newbs".
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:31 pm to
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That's a little lower than I expected


That's a lot lower than expected and surley it cannot include the SEC Network or Internet inventory. As stated it does not include bowl game revenue, but what about March Madness revenue?

I didn't expect to get the forty million some were guesstimating but I sure expected to beat the PAC 12 and B1G which that figure does not.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9789 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 6:37 pm to
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I'll wait until everything is official

Till then it's not worth worrying about IMO. Either way, the SEC WILL NOT BE poor
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