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Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:23 am to
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Opportunity Vanderbilt Primer

Tons of confusion about Opportunity Vanderbilt. This should help but in the end you’re gonna believe what you want to believe.


Has zero with what "I want to believe". Its the facts. Privates schools have more tools in NCAA baseball to use. Its just the facts.

Plenty of respectable organizations have written articles about it.

I am not sure why you guys get bent over it. If LSU was a private school, they sure as shite would use the advantages.
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:25 am to
Did you.read it?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:30 am to
Is it your stance Opportunity Vanderbilt is not an advantage at all or is it your stance it isn’t as much of an advantage as others believe?
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 11:34 am
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26780 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:38 am to
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am not sure why you guys get bent over it


Because they have to hear about it repeatedly yet they have failed to make the absolute most of it. *choke*
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 11:55 am to
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isn’t as much of an advantage as others believe?


It was primarily created to allow Vanderbilt to be financially competitive with Ivy League schools to attract the best students. Secondarily, it allows Vanderbilt to be competitive with schools in the region. From an SEC baseball perspective, the net out of pocket cost is similar to other schools. The advantage within the SEC then becomes the higher quality education.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
The article states that most elite baseball recruits are from affluent families, and all the opportunity program does for them is make the cost comparable to attending a state school.

I’d say that’s a huge advantage. Elite academic and athletic school (baseball) for the same cost as a state school which only might be elite in athletics. That’s a no-brainer.
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:21 pm to
Yes, the net advantage is an educational advantage. Many would have you believe that all players are walking into Vanderbilt not paying a dime out of pocket.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64569 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:58 pm to
Opportunity Vanderbilt is also available for any student, not just in-state players like the lottery scholarships. It’s a huge advantage whether you care to accept it or not.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:08 pm to
An educational advantage, not an out of pocket cost advantage. Ultimately, Vanderbilt is effectively addressing the issue of rising education costs and baseball fans of other schools are upset that given similar out of pocket costs, elite players are choosing Vanderbilt and Corbin over other schools.
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:20 pm to
What many don’t understand is that Corbin was already recruiting elite talent before Opportunity Vanderbilt. David Price, Mike Minor, Pedro Alvarez, Ryan Flaherty, Casey Weathers, Jeremy Sowers were all on campus years before Opportunity Vanderbilt. The mlb pipeline was already in place.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:22 pm to
We are all filled with jubilation that such a magnificent university would empower whistlers with such grace.
It is absolutely glorious. I don't understand how you guys do it.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Many would have you believe that all players are walking into Vanderbilt not paying a dime out of pocket.


Haven't seen a person say that yet. What is the problem here then?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:47 pm to
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An educational advantage, not an out of pocket cost advantage.


That is not true. Vandy has more educational tools with regards to "financial aids". Vandy has more educational scholarships to give out.

quote:

elite players are choosing Vanderbilt and Corbin over other schools.



IF this were the ONLY case, no one would complain. It would be similar to just dealing withit like we deal with Bama in football getting basically anyone they want.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:49 pm to
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What many don’t understand is that Corbin was already recruiting elite talent before Opportunity Vanderbilt.


Yet you didn't make it to the CWS once before that.

Vandy made has made it to a regional 18 times. 12 of them came after Opportunity Vanderbilt in 2008.
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:51 pm to
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That is not true. Vandy has more educational tools with regards to "financial aids". Vandy has more educational scholarships to give out.


And you believe this based on what?
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6960 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Yet you didn't make it to the CWS once before that.


I agree that they underachieved but that group started the Vandy mlb pipeline.
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1036 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Haven't seen a person say that yet.

You literally said it yourself.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 2:01 pm to
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You literally said it yourself.


Then quote me.

At no point did I say "all".
This post was edited on 6/8/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 2:03 pm to
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I agree that they underachieved but that group started the Vandy mlb pipeline.


Right. It just coincides with the 2011 NCAA rule change.....
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1036 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Then quote me.

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