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re: Draft by Southeast States

Posted on 5/1/21 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 3:43 pm to
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No idea why folks can't comprehend or get offended by a much more reliable method in regards to calculating which states produce NFL talent.


Because it isn't more reliable.

You're being majorly downvoted because most folks here realize that "per participant" figures are notoriously unreliable and those numbers vary drastically from state to state in how they're figured whereas population figures are much more reliable and uniform.

"Per participant" is a better way to figure it, in theory, but this isn't a perfect world.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 4:13 pm to
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Because it isn't more reliable


LMAO!

Are you actually trying to tell me it's easier to figure a states population than how many HS students play HS FB?

You actually believe this?

So getting a roster of players from each school that plays HS FB is somehow impossible.Even an estimate gives you a FAR more accurate way of figuring out NFL talent produced by state.

Do you actually think retirees moving into Florida who never played or never HS FB should be counted in a population pool of potential/future HS FB?

Here ya go participants per state and D1 offers

Gee,how in the world did they get such secret and complex information?

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 4:17 pm to
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Are you actually trying to tell me it's easier to figure a states population than how many HS students play HS FB?



Yes, there is a Census to count the population. There is not an organization who keeps reliable numbers of high school football players in each state.

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So getting a roster of players from each school that plays HS FB is somehow impossible.Even an estimate gives you a FAR more accurate way of figuring out NFL talent produced by state


It isn't impossible, it just isn't recorded by any organization.

This isn't that hard to understand.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 4:31 pm to
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Yes,


You actually believe it's easier to gather population sizes in the millions than a number of senior boys who play HS FB?

I honestly don't know what to tell you if you believe this.


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It isn't impossible, it just isn't recorded by any organization.

This isn't that hard to understand.


So how did the NCAA figure it out in that article?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 4:37 pm to
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You actually believe it's easier to gather population sizes in the millions than a number of senior boys who play HS FB?

I honestly don't know what to tell you if you believe this.


I'm not saying it's "easier" per se, I'm saying it's actually done whereas the other isn't.

Not sure why you're struggling so hard to understand this.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 5:21 pm to
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I'm saying it's actually done whereas the other isn't.


It isnt?

How did the NCAA get its participant information for the article? (2nd time asking)
Posted by uf5514
Jacksonville
Member since Feb 2016
62 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 6:08 pm to
Of UF's
Pitts - Pennsylvania
Toney - Alabama
Trask - Texas
Wilson - Florida
McPherson - Alabama
Davis - Florida
Slaton - Florida
Forsythe - Florida
Wilson, Davis, and Slaton are all from south Florida.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 6:09 pm to
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It isnt?

How did the NCAA get its participant information for the article? (2nd time asking)


It's your article, you tell me.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:01 pm to
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It's your article, you tell me.


And still won't answer a simple question.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 7:04 pm to
Neither will you
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 11:05 pm to
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Neither will you


You said there was no data to support participation rates.I then post data with participation rates included.

Did the NCAA just pull it out their arse? Just decided to lie about it?

Any reasons as to why they might do this?



:r
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 11:08 pm to
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You said there was no data to support participation rates.I then post data with participation rates included


False. I said there was no organization that provided reliable data accessible by everyone.

The NCAA doesn't exactly state where they got their data so who knows where it come from, in a way, your article helps to prove my point.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/21 at 11:33 pm to
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The NCAA doesn't exactly state where they got their data so who knows where it come from, in a way, your article helps to prove my point


No it doesn't and once again,did they just make it up? Lie about it?
Reasons?

BTW You never addressed the state of Florida scenario and including retirees and transplants in your "per capita" equation.

Another BTW.Why do Mississippi and Louisiana folks get their panties in a wad when participation rates are brought up?It s obviously the most logical and scientific way to figure out which state produces what NFL talent especially if you wanna bring the "per" argument into this.

Strange,very strange.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52485 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 3:56 am to
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No it doesn't


False

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and once again,did they just make it up? Lie about it?
Reasons?


I have no clue, ONCE AGAIN, they don't state their source which supports my statement that there is no reliable source of this information that is available to everyone.

quote:

BTW You never addressed the state of Florida scenario and including retirees and transplants in your "per capita" equation


There's no reason for me to.

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Another BTW.Why do Mississippi and Louisiana folks get their panties in a wad when participation rates are brought up?It s obviously the most logical and scientific way to figure out which state produces what NFL talent especially if you wanna bring the "per" argument into this.




I already told you that "per participant" IS a better statistic BUT reliable data isn't available for whatever reason.

You keep saying the same thing over and over again, speaking with you is like communicating with a petulant child.

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