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re: Did Cam Newton ever specifically deny taking money or knowing about Dad?

Posted on 2/22/11 at 7:33 am to
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 7:33 am to
The problem is that when Cam says something so black and white, it still doesnt translate to the morons who are looking for the grey area.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 7:49 am to
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The problem is that when Cam says something so black and white, it still doesnt translate to the morons who are looking for the grey area.


Not all of us go through life with blinders on. Cam and Cecil have made a living off the "gray area". I'm sorry that you're too naive to see that.
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 7:51 am to
"I did nothing wrong."

If you cant see the finality in that statement, then you are the one wearing blinders.

Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 8:05 am to
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"I did nothing wrong."

If you cant see the finality in that statement, then you are the one wearing blinders.


I recall Cecil saying almost the exact same thing right before admitting to the NCAA that he shopped his son.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 8:12 am to
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I recall Cecil saying almost the exact same thing right before admitting to the NCAA that he shopped his son.



Looks like his statement does answer the OP's question though.
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 8:59 am to
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"I did nothing wrong."

If you cant see the finality in that statement, then you are the one wearing blinders.



Disagree

First off he's been very evasive on one point - I just can't credit him with being honest when he claimed to Chris Fowler that he and his father had never discussed his father shopping him around.

It was the easiest way for him to tell a single lie and end the conversation with reporters tho... if he had answered "yes, we talked about it" then you open up what had been said, why his dad did it, did he have suspicions etc

But it's not credible to me. No way he doesn't at least ask his father what happened - if you even made the assumption (on his behalf) he was ignorant at the time of his recruitment

The Reggie Bush statements read pretty similarly btw... and it's probably because he didn't think he was doing anything wrong either
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:11 am to
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First off he's been very evasive on one point - I just can't credit him with being honest when he claimed to Chris Fowler that he and his father had never discussed his father shopping him around.

It was the easiest way for him to tell a single lie and end the conversation with reporters tho... if he had answered "yes, we talked about it" then you open up what had been said, why his dad did it, did he have suspicions etc

But it's not credible to me. No way he doesn't at least ask his father what happened - if you even made the assumption (on his behalf) he was ignorant at the time of his recruitment

The Reggie Bush statements read pretty similarly btw... and it's probably because he didn't think he was doing anything wrong either


You are now talking about credibility issues. That is not what the OP was asking for. He wanted a finality statement and Cam has given one.

If ppl want to believe or not believe him, that is fine but is a seperate conversation.

A black and white, yes or no, statement was given.

IF he even come out and says anythigndifferent, that will show his lack of credibility but will not change the fact that his statement given at this point is a yes or no type statement.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:13 am to
his statement was "i did nothing wrong" or some-such right?

That is not an answer... as I just pointed out Reggie Bush said (and meant IMO) almost exactly the same thing RE: his NCAA case

Probably because he saw nothing wrong with taking money
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:16 am to
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his statement was "i did nothing wrong" or some-such right?


Correct

It is an answer. It is not an answer that you belive or want.
This post was edited on 2/22/11 at 9:17 am
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:21 am to
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"I did nothing wrong."



In whose eyes? His dad's? The NCAA? Ted Bundy?

Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:22 am to
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The NCAA
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:23 am to
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Ted Bundy?
It's unlikely he still has eyes.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:25 am to
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You are now talking about credibility issues. That is not what the OP was asking for. He wanted a finality statement and Cam has given one.


You just have to figured out what Cam considers "wrong". He probably told the UF police that he didn't do anything wrong and he probably told his UF professor that he didn't do anything wrong. But, we all know he was wrong as frick.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:26 am to
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The NCAA



you are reaching past the words he chose to use

he gave a fairly ambiguous response instead of getting into what did or did not happen IMO

Which is probably what he should do in his own self interest. He has nothing much to gain in being honest unless he could completely exonerate himself from suspicion... and that's pretty much impossible when your father admitted to asking for money for your recruitment
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:26 am to
Well, there it is. A definitive statement that will either be the wings that allow him to fly free or be the bullet that ends it. If his "I did nothing wrong" was framed in the context of the NCAA, rather than how he perceived his actions, that is all anyone outside of an investigator can hope for...
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:27 am to
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You just have to figured out what Cam considers "wrong".


I dont care what Cam considers wrong. I care what the NCAA considers wrong.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:28 am to
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you are reaching past the words he chose to use


So are you.

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Which is probably what he should do in his own self interest.


I agree.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:28 am to
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I dont care what Cam considers wrong. I care what the NCAA considers wrong.



You're entrenched, and it is a sight to behold. All In.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:28 am to
word
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 9:31 am to
I'm being serious. The AU family is like the Japanese in WWII. One would have to use a flamethrower to burn you out of the bunker. Someone got a big ol' swallow of Cammy Cam juice...
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