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re: Deshaun Watson vs Cam Newton

Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:03 pm to
I just went back through Genro's posts because I thought I might have missed something. I didn't.

You people are raking him over the coals for saying TWO THINGS: 1) You can't compare this Alabama team to an Alabama team from 2010 and believe that settles it, and 2) You're sensitive at the very idea that another player might be as good as Cam.

Just listen to yourselves. The reason I even mentioned this is BECAUSE Cam was incredible and I was just comparing two incredible quarterbacks. If you think that is somehow disrespecting Cam Newton, something is fricking wrong with you.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:05 pm to
Why are you being so sensitive about the subject and people responding to genro. You admitted bias and the others genro is responding to are bias. Are you the only one allowed to be biased in their posting?
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:07 pm to
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You admitted bias and the others genro is responding to are bias. Are you the only one allowed to be biased in their posting?



There's a big difference between admitting bias and being biased while you belittle someone else, as if it's OBVIOUS you're right. That kind of attitude frustrates me (I know, I better get used to it on the rant. But it's still ignorant and rude.)
Posted by LSUTigers9458
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:07 pm to
And once again I stated in my post that this Bama team gave up over 500 yards of offense to Clemson, did you give that much up to Auburn in 2010? Again, how can you say this team is so much different than when Cam played them? Seems like the similar stats put up but only with Cam winning.

He came back from 24 on your home field. Name the last team to do that to Alabama.

Watson had essentially a home game against Bama in Glendale and still lost. How can I not compare the two without clearly saying Cam is the better QB????
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:10 pm to
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And once again I stated in my post that this Bama team gave up over 500 yards of offense to Clemson, did you give that much up to Auburn in 2010?


So since Watson produced so many yards against this Bama team, then the Bama defense must have been weak, so Watson must not be that good. Brilliant logic.

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He came back from 24 on your home field. Name the last team to do that to Alabama.

Impressive comeback against a DIFFERENT TEAM. And that 2010 Bama offense was better, so...you might argue that because Watson was so good, his team WASN'T so far behind at halftime.

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Watson had essentially a home game against Bama in Glendale and still lost. How can I not compare the two without clearly saying Cam is the better QB????

That would be Glendale, South Carolina?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:12 pm to
But on the subject of Cam they are obviously right and you should be ridiculed and belittled. It may be rude but setting someone straight is not always about being nice.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:13 pm to
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What's next for you a-hole? You gonna say Tebow wasn't shite also?
Dude....
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Get a grip and humble yourself dude, I hated Cam also but he was one of the greats in this conference. Swallow your fricking pride and at least acknowledge the accomplishments he had in ONE year at Auburn.
Jesus Christ.

Wowsers.

I've already said I like Cam. Of course hes a great qb with amazing accomplishments.

Comparing Watson to Cam is not a way of tearing Cam down. It's a compliment to Cam because he is the gold standard - the GOAT dual threat qb.

I've never seen such out of whack responses. I'm just marveling at it now.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:15 pm to
It's not that obvious. It seems obvious to you.

Both quarterbacks are incredible. There's no need to use such superlatives with one that the other has to be talked down. What Watson did to that Alabama defense was just ridiculous. And he did similar things to other very good defenses this year.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:17 pm to
If Cam (2010) was Clemson's quarterback on Monday night, Alabama would have lost.
Posted by LSUTigers9458
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:19 pm to
You know damn well that Clemson had a decisive advantage in fans at the game. It was reported by several here and reputable media so don't try to be retarded and ignore facts.

Again, you are missing the point, Deshaun did have Clemson in the game at halftime, what does that say about you vaunted defense this year? In the same breath, I could said well Cam would've dropped 30 by halftime if they played this Bama defense. Am I right?

You guys played better against a spread QB in 2010 against Cam, dont believe me? Go look at the stats and the 1st half specifically. You had Cam completely shut down. You didn't do that to Deshaun in this game.

Cam beat you guys at home in arguably the biggest rivarly in college football being down by 24. I again ask you, when was the last time that happened to Bama?

Cam won the Heisman and a nationak championship that year.

Deshaun won neither.

Again I rest my case, Cam IS THE BETTER QB.

Why is it so hard for you to pay the man a compliment?
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:20 pm to
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If Cam (2010) was Clemson's quarterback on Monday night, Alabama would have lost.


Maybe.

Maybe if Watson was auburn's quarterback in 2010, they would have been leading at halftime and there would have been no need for a comeback. And then they would have destroyed Oregon and it would be "no question" who the best was.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:20 pm to
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Watson had essentially a home game against Bama in Glendale and still lost

I agree that Cam was better than Watson, but this is a retarded point.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:21 pm to
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It seems obvious to you.


Of course, I admit to my bias, so I am good. It is obvious though, not in a different universe sort of way , but obvious just the same.

Of course Watson is damn good.

I never talked Watson down.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:22 pm to
Having more fans does not equal a home game.
Comparing a great quarterback to another great quarterback is not an insult.

How many times does a person have to say "great" and "incredible" before you consider it a compliment?

You are a complete mouth breathing jackass. You are incapable of thought.
Posted by LSUTigers9458
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:22 pm to
Damn Genro I was enjoying the banter, why did you all of a sudden diffuse it and now I have to be respectful?
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Of course, I admit to my bias, so I am good. It is obvious though, not in a different universe sort of way , but obvious just the same.

Of course Watson is damn good.

I never talked Watson down.



You are someone worth debating, even when we disagree. We're good.
Posted by LSUTigers9458
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:23 pm to
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You are a complete mouth breathing jackass. You are incapable of thought


Has been stated already about most Bama fans.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:24 pm to
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Has been stated already about most Bama fans.


And they're usually right about most of us. But that's beside the point.
Posted by LSUTigers9458
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:25 pm to
Ahhh well frick you're right, we may very well be having this same conversation in a year.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 1/15/16 at 3:26 pm to
Next time I'm comparing him to Tebow instead.
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