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re: Coronavirus ‘tipping point’ primed to have economy, sports returning soon
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:58 am to msudawg1200
Posted on 4/11/20 at 11:58 am to msudawg1200
you are both wrong. it was 619 dead yesterday in Italy, 2035 dead in USA . Probably using sub-par trackers. try this one- LINK
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 12:03 pm to Slackaveli
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still not seeing much evidence for hydroxychloriquine but I am seeing some promising results from remdesivir. The more the merrier.
Which means we need more time to figure this treatment thing out.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 12:13 pm to kajunman
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The use of "pandemic" has been the biggest hoax ever perpetrated. I live my life every day now as I would any other day with the exception of having to eat at home. Walking around in fear is useless.
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 12:17 pm to Slackaveli
I take Plaquenil routinely bc I have lupus.
I also had COVID19.
Mine was an EXTREMELY mild case that lasted only a few days.
Lupus and asthma put me in the high risk category. Is it possible that bc I was already on, and continued to take, Plaquenil during the time I had the virus it resulted in my experience being so extremely mild? (Was taking it both before the virus and continued afterwards as well). Who can say for sure but if I had to do it all over again, you bet your sweet arse I'd take Plaquenil even if the lupus had magically disappeared.
I also had COVID19.
Mine was an EXTREMELY mild case that lasted only a few days.
Lupus and asthma put me in the high risk category. Is it possible that bc I was already on, and continued to take, Plaquenil during the time I had the virus it resulted in my experience being so extremely mild? (Was taking it both before the virus and continued afterwards as well). Who can say for sure but if I had to do it all over again, you bet your sweet arse I'd take Plaquenil even if the lupus had magically disappeared.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 12:33 pm to Carolina_Girl
I have Lupus and dont take meds for it (well, cannabis). I also had a mild case of covid-19. Who knows why some get sicker, but, this is a perfect example of anecdotal evidence. Maybe it's the Lupus killing it faster bc our immune system is already different and produces antibodies all the time... I know they say we were "higher' risk bc of Lupus but they dont know that, none of this has been properly researched- we were just lumped in with the other immuno conditions; but does anybody know? Not yet. An AIDS patient and a Lupus patient wont react the same.
Sometimes you die bc of an underwhelming immuno response and others die bc they got TOO big of an immuno response and end up with sepsis.
I guess we can both see if we actually have some immunity bc of having had it now.
Sometimes you die bc of an underwhelming immuno response and others die bc they got TOO big of an immuno response and end up with sepsis.
I guess we can both see if we actually have some immunity bc of having had it now.
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 6:07 pm to 3down10
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Over 16 million people have lost their jobs already, with more on the way the longer the lockdown continues.
and for what? something that will ultimately have a less than half a percent mortality rate?
it's time to open it all back up
Posted on 4/11/20 at 7:00 pm to Slackaveli
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Im still not seeing much evidence for hydroxychloriquine but I am seeing some promising results from remdesivir. The more the merrier.
Got any links? Because I continue to see plenty of reports talking about hydroxychloroquine having good results, and they come decently quick.
The only downside I've seen about it are side effects. But when you are about to be put on a ventilator, is that what you are worried about?
An alternative without the side effects would be better, but this seems better than nothing.
Haven't heard much about the other. Did a quick search for information on it. I'm surprised you are so quick to embrace it after dismissing other things because of "antidotal evidence". You obviously can't remove your political bias.
Looks like they are only allowed it to give it to people as a last resort. So it's been very limited in use from what I can see.
But the few stats did look good, even if more anecdotal than the other. Sounds like they should allow doctors to use it earlier and see how it does. Especially if the side effects of the other is something that could make them vulnerable to other things.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 7:11 pm to Slackaveli
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I have Lupus and dont take meds for it (well, cannabis). I also had a mild case of covid-19. Who knows why some get sicker, but, this is a perfect example of anecdotal evidence. Maybe it's the Lupus killing it faster bc our immune system is already different and produces antibodies all the time... I know they say we were "higher' risk bc of Lupus but they dont know that, none of this has been properly researched- we were just lumped in with the other immuno conditions; but does anybody know? Not yet. An AIDS patient and a Lupus patient wont react the same.
Sometimes you die bc of an underwhelming immuno response and others die bc they got TOO big of an immuno response and end up with sepsis.
I guess we can both see if we actually have some immunity bc of having had it now.
Why aren't you citing "anecdotal evidence" on the drug you mentioned, which has wayyyy less cases in which it was used?
And then you go even further and start to offer up your own anecdotal evidence and speculation with lupus and antibodies, just to debunk another.
You need help.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:41 pm to msudawg1200
My bad but 615 died in Italy today which is still a very high number
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:51 pm to dcbl
If we continue to average 1k deaths over the next two weeks which is extremely likely we will have passed even the worst seasonal flu years in the span of 6 weeks, and that is with social distancing in place.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:32 pm to Slackaveli
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re: Coronavirus ‘tipping point’ primed to have economy, sports returning soonPosted on 4/11/20 at 10:45 am to InGAButLoveBama
Nearly half the US population is obese, your plan is to lecture, and attack hundreds of millions of people through public service announcements? Solid plan
Are PSAs about other matters considered lectures? How would obesity be any different? PSAs would be part of a long term strategy. In the short term, we should still be encouraging people to live healthy lifestyles including sufficient sunshine for vitamin D, which is crucial for the immune system. People who have co-morbidities would know that they are at much higher risk and take appropriate precautions. Right now, most of them don't know that they are at higher risk. Maybe many of them would take it more seriously if they knew they were!
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