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re: Comparison: Max Johnson vs JT Daniels vs Bryce Young

Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:04 pm to
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A?


More or less tied. Just my opinion at this moment. It could change tomorrow, or after the first week....just an opinion.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Often synonymous with quality of team. USC blows. Ohio state and uga don’t.


If JT Daniels can't get the 4th most talented team to be bowl eligible, what makes you think he can win 10 games at UGA?
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12448 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:08 pm to
Well your 5 and 5 team is going to set the moon this year so why not UGA?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60642 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:09 pm to
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They had the 4th most talent and went 5-7.

That's all that matters in DawgsLife's transitive property comparisons.


Could be a lot of reasons they went 5-7/ Talent was overrated. Coaches. (Which was the problem at USC) Could be injuries. There are a lot of reasons a team can underperform. None of which would apply to Ohio State. Good coaching staff. Talent. No big time injuries. But hey. You lice in a linear world. Go ahead and think that the best team always wins.

Fact is, Fields played for a team with more talent than Georgia with no significant injuries with good coaching and they still got trucked by 4 TDs. But somehow in your world Fields was going to come to Georgia and make up those 4 TDs. He would have made all the difference in the world.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
4035 Vanderbilt Lane
Member since Dec 2013
36975 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:12 pm to
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JT Daniels can't get the 4th most talented team


They weren’t close to as talented as Ohio state and they have a bad coach.

Fields not getting a national title at Ohio state really hurts your argument.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:14 pm to
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Could be a lot of reasons they went 5-7/ Talent was overrated. Coaches. (Which was the problem at USC) Could be injuries. There are a lot of reasons a team can underperform. 


I agree.

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None of which would apply to Ohio State. Good coaching staff. Talent. No big time injuries


Your opinion, not necessarily a fact.

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You lice in a linear world




I'm not the one arguing that Fields' results = his results at Georgia.

Fields is a far more talented quarterback than anyone else you've had in a while, it's asinine to argue that he wouldn't have made Georgia a better team.


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Fact is, Fields played for a team with more talent than Georgia 


You keep saying this but 2020 Ohio State wasn't more talented than 2020 Georgia

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:18 pm to
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Fields not getting a national title at Ohio state really hurts your argument.


How?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:19 pm to
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You keep saying this but 2020 Ohio State wasn't more talented than 2020 Georgia


A bit silly to split this hair
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:22 pm to
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A bit silly to split this hair


That's the man's entire argument
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:22 pm to
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How


Ohio state has a loaded roster, remained relatively healthy, with a stat racking offense, in an easy conference. Far more conducive to winning a national title than uga has had.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:26 pm to
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Ohio state has a loaded roster, remained relatively healthy, with a stat racking offense, in an easy conference. Far more conducive to winning a national title than uga has had.





So your argument is basically Ohio State is a 9 with Fields and Georgia is an 8 without him and he couldn't win with the 9 so he definitely couldn't with an 8.

My question is, how do you know Ohio State isn't a 7 without Fields?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:26 pm to
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That's the man's entire argument


And yours is talking up a bad program like USC, which is a far more flawed argument.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:28 pm to
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And yours is talking up a bad program like USC, which is a far more flawed argument.


Hint: I was using a similar bad argument (Daniels at USC) to shine a light on how bad of an argument DawgsLife was making.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:32 pm to
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So your argument is basically Ohio State is a 9 with Fields and Georgia is an 8 without him and he couldn't win with the 9 so he definitely couldn't with an 8.

My question is, how do you know Ohio State isn't a 7 without Fields?


No, that isn’t my argument.

It’s very safe to assume Ohio state isn’t a 7 win team w/o fields. It’s an elite program that excels no matter who the qb is.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:33 pm to
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Hint: I was using a similar bad argument (Daniels at USC) to shine a light on how bad of an argument DawgsLife was making.


His argument is much better than yours.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:37 pm to
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It’s very safe to assume Ohio state isn’t a 7 win team w/o fields. It’s an elite program that excels no matter who the qb is.


Joe Burrow couldn't even start there.

Hate to see how bad he'd have been with a "less talented" team.

Oh wait.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1153 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:46 pm to
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Joe Burrow couldn't even start there.


2019 Joe Burrow was not the same as 2016 or 2017 Joe Burrow.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:48 pm to
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2019 Joe Burrow was not the same as 2016 or 2017 Joe Burrow.


Exactly
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38214 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:54 pm to
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Joe Burrow couldn't even start there.


This doesn’t help your point, but it helps mine, so thanks!
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