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re: Comparing Saban and Kirby's first 7 years. From Twitter....

Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:02 pm to
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Beats the shite out of losing to Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee, Miss St, LSU, Auburn and Oklahoma St.


Both teams sucked: Uga 2015 and bama 2006. Both programs were top 10 in the season prior to that one. Both had holes all over the place in year 1.
Posted by Richard Dangler
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:20 pm to
Jeremy Pruitt?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:26 pm to
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colleg

Yikes!
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:06 pm to
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So your argument is that because the SEC East puts up weak opponents in the SEC Championship and the SEC West puts up strong opponents in the SEC Championship game, Kirby faces tougher quality of opponents?

And this is a sign that the west is weaker than I think?


A weaker east doesn't make the west, Outside of Bama, anything special outside of the random fluke national title run by LSU or AU.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:19 pm to
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random fluke national title run by LSU or AU.






Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 9:07 pm to
Didn’t the East had the head to head over the West but sure
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:47 am to
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Both teams sucked: Uga 2015 and bama 2006. Both programs were top 10 in the season prior to that one. Both had holes all over the place in year 1.




2015 Georgia was 10-3. They had pulled in multiple recruiting classes ranked #6 and #7 in the years leading up to 2016.

2015 Georgia started the season in the top10. When they played Alabama, the were actually the favorites to win the game, the first time Alabama was an underdog since 2008. They finished the year ranked in the Coaches poll.

2006 Alabama was 6-7, and lost like their final 4-5 games. They won a total of 2 SEC games that entire year, losing the other 6. Alabama had 0 top10 classes in the 3 years leading up to 2007, with the best class being ranked #14.

You are straight up fricking stupid if you think the situations were similar.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:51 am to
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Sorry. I don’t recall seeing that bitch made final sentence the first time I read that post of yours. It’s pathetic, edited to add or not.


Cry more.
Posted by Silverback911
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:20 am to
There is a huge difference between coaching in the West and the East. West is more difficult. Tennessee is just now good and Florida has been cucks for a while.

Plus Georgia lost to Texas.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 11:01 am to
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2015 Georgia was 10-3.

Overtime win vs GA Southern at home.
INT on the last drive to prevent overtime against 3-9 GT.
10 wins? Sure. Keep holding onto that. It is factual. It means nothing. But it is factual.
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They had pulled in multiple recruiting classes ranked #6 and #7 in the years leading up to 2016.

2012 class was #9 (2015 seniors).
2013 class was #12 (2016 seniors. Most of them were gone by 2016 anyway. Awful class with average recruit .8800 out of 32 kids).
2014 class #8. This was a good class and the foundation of the 2017 season. Top to bottom, outperformed rankings with lots of solid players despite only being 20 recruits.
2015 class was #6. Top heavy with great linebackers and Terry Godwin and 2 diamonds (Tae crowder and DeAndre baker. Thin on "hits" but the hits were great).

Your facts are wrong.
I'm shocked. Shocked I say.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 11:10 am to
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Beating up on Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss St, a&m, and Auburn should never be a source of pride (the same for the bottom half of the east).


It's better than beating Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Missouri. Throw in Tennessee every year except this last year, and Florida has been about an Ole Miss.

You have yet to name who is better. So let's see it clown.

No. It is the exact same as beating vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Missouri.

"Throw in Tennessee and florida"
I can say the same about Auburn and LSU.

It is laughable how they are the same.
The bottom half of the conference is below average. And that blows your mind.

frick. I haven't seen a school more ACC than Auburn. We see GT and Auburn every year. Trust me. Auburn is as ACC as it gets.
Honestly, your dick never gets hard when Bama plays Auburn. They are no different than the joke by the coke.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7149 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 11:37 am to
I'm not reading all these posts and I am pretty sure it's been noted, but Saban was following Mike Shula and his (lack of) recruiting, and the team was on probation for the text books. Saban's first year was predictably not good because of those factors. Apparently the official record for that year is 2-6 after vacated wins. All 6 of the losses were by 7 points or less.

Kirby Smart was following Richt, who recruited well.
This post was edited on 1/8/23 at 11:42 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40028 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 11:54 am to
Yup, it’s been posted as well as how much more experience Saban had than Kirby when they both took over their current program. Naturally neither side gives a shite
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Kirby Smart was following Richt, who recruited well.


That is the narrative, anyway.

Go ahead and throw out his recruiting numbers to prove your point, and I'll shred them to pieces.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22732 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Overtime win vs GA Southern at home.
INT on the last drive to prevent overtime against 3-9 GT.
10 wins? Sure. Keep holding onto that. It is factual. It means nothing. But it is factual.


So...college football.

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2012 class was #9 (2015 seniors).
2013 class was #12 (2016 seniors. Most of them were gone by 2016 anyway. Awful class with average recruit .8800 out of 32 kids).
2014 class #8. This was a good class and the foundation of the 2017 season. Top to bottom, outperformed rankings with lots of solid players despite only being 20 recruits.
2015 class was #6. Top heavy with great linebackers and Terry Godwin and 2 diamonds (Tae crowder and DeAndre baker. Thin on "hits" but the hits were great).



You are a year behind. 2017 was Kirby's first real class, not 2016. Like this past years class is 2023, not 2022.

2016: #6
2015: #6
2014: #8

So yeah, my facts aren't wrong. Still, even if we went by your wrong years - they are still ALL better than any year Alabama had prior.

There is a reason Alabama fans call the time period before Saban "The Dark Times".

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32952 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 4:09 pm to
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2015 Georgia was 10-3.


You prove your ignorance every time you post this misleading final record.

It reminds me of Florida fans trying to make a big diff between uga 2015 and Florida 2017. A deeper look revealed that take to be silly.

That 2015 team was not close to good, which is why it was the first ever 10 win p5 team to finished UR in AP.

It took 5 straight one score wins over weak teams in the 2nd half of the season to get to 10 wins rather than finish 5-7.

The roster somehow got worse for 2016, holes all over the place, but that’s the direction richt was taking uga.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32952 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 4:12 pm to
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Cry more.


You are now melting because I called you out for silly immaturity. I thought you were better than this, but Kirby taking uga to this level has really gotten in your head.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22732 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:18 pm to
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You are now melting because I called you out for silly immaturity. I thought you were better than this, but Kirby taking uga to this level has really gotten in your head.




No, I'm telling you to cry more about whatever it was I posted that made you so upset.

Aside from that, I'm not upset about Georgia at all. I like what I see from Georgia and Kirby. Again,it's not my fault Georgia fans act like 2 national championships somehow equals 7 or any of this other shite.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22732 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:21 pm to
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You prove your ignorance every time you post this misleading final record.

It reminds me of Florida fans trying to make a big diff between uga 2015 and Florida 2017. A deeper look revealed that take to be silly.

That 2015 team was not close to good, which is why it was the first ever 10 win p5 team to finished UR in AP.

It took 5 straight one score wins over weak teams in the 2nd half of the season to get to 10 wins rather than finish 5-7.

The roster somehow got worse for 2016, holes all over the place, but that’s the direction richt was taking uga.


You are comparing it to a team that lost 6 SEC games in addition to a loss to Oklahoma St and hadn't had a top10 recruiting class since they started keeping track.



Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32952 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 5:25 pm to
2 piles of shite, both much closer in quality than the final records would lead a simple mind to believe.

The difference was uga barely beating weak teams and bama
Barely losing to better teams.
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