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re: "College football's top 24 jobs" according to ESPN and fellow coaches..

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Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:05 pm to
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Not surprised an aggie likes the list considering your ranking on said list is well ahead of your actual results



Exactly. It is more an indication of where we will be the next decade.

Outside of lucky hires (the Pinkel's of the world) you are as good as your job is.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:06 pm to
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He's made some pretty bone headed decisions in recent past too.



Saban usually makes one bone-headed decision per season. It usually becomes the catalyst behind the "game of the year" or the other team's "play of the century."

Miles makes tons of boneheaded mistakes.

There's no doubt he is a good coach, but that dude has squandered a metric frickton of talent and slicing it any way other than that is simply not true.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:06 pm to
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You don't think Saban has been bailed out by having the best talent? He's made some pretty bone headed decisions in recent past too.


People give Saban the benefit of the doubt (and rightfully so). People don't give Miles the benefit of the doubt, again in part because of the situation he walked into.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:07 pm to
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I've got nothing at all against em--they're a great program--but how is a job at FSU any better than one at Georgia, Notre Dame, or South Carolina?


Georgia - no SEC for Florida State
Notre Dame - muuuuuuuuuuuch more talent surrounding Tallahassee compared to South Bend
South Carolina -
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:08 pm to
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People give Saban the benefit of the doubt (and rightfully so).


People give Saban the benefit of the doubt because Alabama is 72-9 since 2008 with three national championships to boot, brah.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15120 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:08 pm to
Come back to me when USC and or UCLA make it as far as Oregon did last season, again. USC will continue to be worshipped by the media, but they have a cultural problem and until the quit recruiting 5* drama queens they want do shite.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:08 pm to
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Come back to me when USC and or UCLA make it as far as Oregon did last season, again. USC will continue to be worshipped by the media, but they have a cultural problem and until the quit recruiting 5* drama queens they want do shite.


You're a moron.

Again, USC runs that conference and will be back on top within the next two or three seasons.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Miles makes tons of boneheaded mistakes.


Not really

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but that dude has squandered a metric frickton of talent and slicing it any way other than that is simply not true.


You really just don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15120 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:09 pm to
You're an idiot.
Posted by Gladius Veritas
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since May 2012
13189 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:09 pm to
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A potted plant could win ten games per season in Baton Rouge.


People always say this about the big programs, and it's just not true at all. What about the 90s for LSU with Hallman and Dinardo?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:10 pm to
Y'all have put more players in the NFL since 2000 than any other SEC school, I'd bet.

While Miles has won a lot, he backed into a national championship seven years ago and has done jack shite since in terms of the national scale.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:10 pm to
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People give Saban the benefit of the doubt because Alabama is 72-9 since 2008 with three national championships to boot, brah.


I said "and rightfully so"

Posts like these are why people roll their eyes at Alabama fans.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:10 pm to
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What about the 90s for LSU with Hallman and Dinardo?


Again, see my post above about the blueprint for success for LSU.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:11 pm to
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You're an idiot.


So Oregon is the new king of the Pac 12?

The same eight to ten teams who have always won will always win. Get over it.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
11256 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:12 pm to
Yeah Oregon is about to take a step back, most people expect it.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:13 pm to
Nu uhh. USC and UCLA are dead and Oregon is the new king of the Pac 12.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:14 pm to
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Why is Florida State always so high on these lists?

They're an SEC program in the ACC and a state loaded with talent.

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but how is a job at FSU any better than one at Georgia, Notre Dame, or South Carolina?

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:14 pm to
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Y'all have put more players in the NFL since 2000 than any other SEC school, I'd bet.


Yeah and we've done very well for ourselves. The last few years we've lost a ton of juniors which had hurt a good bit. Hopefully that's over.

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While Miles has won a lot, he backed into a national championship seven years ago and has done jack shite since in terms of the national scale.


If Miles backed in then so did Saban in 11 and 12.

You're also completely ignoring our 2011 season, which was "nationally relevant" no matter how you want to slice it.

We haven't won as many titles as we could have because we have one of the 3 or 4 best coaches of all time in our division. That sucks but it doesn't make Miles a "worse" coach by any stretch.

I'm starting to really get the feeling that you don't understand college football very well.

Miles is, by any metric, a very good coach. He's not quite an all time great, but he's much better than most coaches and any school should be happy to hire someone of his caliber if a vacancy comes along.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28479 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:16 pm to
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We haven't won as many titles as we could have because we have one of the 3 or 4 best coaches of all time in out division.


Sweet excuse, bro.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15120 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 4:16 pm to
Oregon is the reigning king of the Pac-12. It's not debatable!




USC lost to Boston College last season.
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