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re: Chubb vs LF

Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:55 am to
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:55 am to
Chubb is 3 inches shorter, only 5 pounds lighter, and has more impressive weight room numbers. I don't know how you don't consider him a power back and act like he's already peaked
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:59 am to
LINK
There ya go. Mind sharing your link of Chubb getting hit behind the line on 48% of runs? I didn't count the run where he trucked a guy that was engaged by a blocker so it might be 10/13. But do you even know what constitutes "yards after contact"? Literally a finger can touch him and it turns into YAC. Chubb is shifty as frick and primarily cuts hard and runs through arm tackles after throwing guys off balance. But I'm sure I'm going to get a rational and well thought out response from a guy that's trying to convince me that UGA's passing game was as bad as ours this season
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:00 am to
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Georgia fans making shite up to take away from his talent


No one is taking anything away from Fournette. Mostly because he hasn't accomplished anything to take away yet. He's been above average at best. That doesn't mean he won't be good...but as of right now he's probably not even top five in the SEC.

But you're doing the same thing to Chubb - who actually has something to show for his "potential" at this point - that you're accusing us of. It took Gurley until his junior year to have a 200 yard rushing game, Chubb had TWO is true freshman year. You can keep pumping sunshine up your own arse if you want but no one can objectively look at the two and say Fournette is better at this point.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:00 am to
Link to the weight room numbers? And link to where I said he's already peaked? I said that it's easier to have immediate success for a guy with his running style, not that he's peaked
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44799 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:01 am to
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What's so hard for you to understand about that? Most guys don't go from running over 160 LB kids to trucking full grown men their freshman year. As I said, see Jeremy Hill. I keep giving clear examples of what I'm talking about and your moron fan base keeps responding with subjectivity


I don't think anyone thinks Fournette isn't a power back. We just believe Chubb is too and if you watched him play at all last year, you would probably believe that too. He just has a lot of elusiveness for a power back.

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I jumped in this thread because of the ridiculous claims that Fournette runs a 4.7, etc. Seems like y'all's fan base is freakishly eager to make LF seem like a below average back for whatever reason when he was the 2nd best in the SEC as a freshman.


As you've probably noticed, most fans are prone to defend their guys. I don't think any of us UGA fans would deny that Fournette is a great RB, and yes that 4.7 stat probably isn't true at all. That being said, it's probably more ridiculous for LSU fans to say that LF is clearly the better running back because based on last season there is no evidence to back that up. And yes, I know there were more QB problems at LSU, than UGA. That doesn't mean that Chubb wasn't facing run-stacked defenses all the time and putting up absurd numbers.

Against the #2 run defense in the nation at the time, Chubb ran for over 250, with a back up freshman QB playing an entire half. He's absurdly good no matter the defense he faces.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:02 am to
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compared to finesse guys like Chubb


Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:02 am to
Perfect example of what I just said dude broke the LSU freshman rushing record with zero passing game and had a pretty nice highlight reel and your dumb arse is telling me that he hasn't accomplished anything
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4065 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:05 am to
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There ya go.


Did you even watch that dumb shite before you posted it? It's like you want to make us right but don't know it yet. You posted a video of Chubb running around, away from or through whoever tries to tackle him. The first run in that link is Chubb running through or over half of that defense.
Posted by GhostofCrowell
North Ave
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:05 am to
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Link to the weight room numbers?


LINK

This is still in High School, FWIW
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4065 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:06 am to
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broke the LSU freshman rushing record


All that means is LSU has unproductive freshman.
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3203 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:07 am to
I see we are discussing yards after contact?

Exhibit A:

Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:07 am to
Link to where I said that fournette is better than Chubb right now? Y'all are literally making shite up and you're all so defensive if anyone says that Chubb was in a better position to put up good numbers this season even though it's 100% true. I'm not saying that Fournette was the better back but he could very easily break out and be the best in the country next season if we have a solid passing attack, I'm not taking away from Chubb, he's great. Y'all can stop with the defensive shite, I'm not here to take away from Chubb like y'all do LF
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3203 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:07 am to
Exhibit B:

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22285 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:10 am to
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No one is taking anything away from Fournette. Mostly because he hasn't accomplished anything to take away yet.


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But you're doing the same thing to Chubb - who actually has something to show for his "potential" at this point


They have damn near the same numbers from last year, with Chubb having a higher YPC, yet Chubb has accomplished something and Fournette hasn't?
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:11 am to
So much delusion and so defensive about Chubb, yea man you're right, Chubb is a mix between Marshall Faulk and Ray Lewis and everybody else sucks and every time he touches the ball he runs straight to contact just like LF and LSU's never had a productive freshman running back
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4065 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:13 am to
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where I said that fournette is better than Chubb right now


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That's more impressive than Chubb



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Put Chubb in our anemic offense and he would've averaged 3 YPC this season, he's not physically talented enough to look elite if he doesn't have help from a solid passing game


I get it now. I'm arguing with a retarded person. Which makes me retarded.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:13 am to
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They have damn near the same numbers from last year,
TIL +500 yards rushing is "damn near the same numbers."
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:13 am to
Yea that was straight power. Running through a half assed attempt at grabbing his legs then juking out the rest of the defenders
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22285 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:14 am to
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TIL +500 yards rushing


huh?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44799 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:15 am to
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Link to where I said that fournette is better than Chubb right now? Y'all are literally making shite up and you're all so defensive if anyone says that Chubb was in a better position to put up good numbers this season even though it's 100% true. I'm not saying that Fournette was the better back but he could very easily break out and be the best in the country next season if we have a solid passing attack, I'm not taking away from Chubb, he's great. Y'all can stop with the defensive shite, I'm not here to take away from Chubb like y'all do LF


Stop bud, you're getting really defensive. I never said you said LF was better than Chubb. There are quite a few LSU fans that have said that though. I don't think I've taken anything at all away from Fournette, even though some of our fans probably have done so (not that that's right). I already told you I thought Fournette could be the better back next season. He's a great player with a lot of potential. I was just saying that based on last season's evidence, there is no reason to think that LF is better than Chubb (not that you think that, but that was what this thread was originally started about by a LSU fan).
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