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re: Chubb vs LF

Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:16 am to
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:16 am to
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The simple fact is LSU fans are too emotionally invested in LF's supposed greatness to admit he is anything less than THE BESTEST SEC RUNNING BACK EVER. They way overhyped the kid, and when he looked just good but nothing spectacular they have painted themselves into a corner to where they have to cling to subjective terms like "potential".


That is what makes us fans. Believeing or wanting to believe that you have the best at everything.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:16 am to
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ill take the word of every single scout over some UGA homers.


Becausae NFL scouts are never wrong, right? Brian Bosworth, Remington, Ryan Leaf.....shall we go on about how many times NFL Scouts proclaimed players great that were ordinary, at best?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:23 am to
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That is what makes us fans. Believeing or wanting to believe that you have the best at everything.


Not really. I don't believe Hutson Mason was the best QB. Do you think LSU fans believe you had the best QB?

LF was judged on what he did in High School. Now, he and Chubb are playing against suimilar competition. Based on what you see, you have to give Chubb the advantage. LF will probably improve in the coming year. but if you push that line of thinking then you have to accept that Chubb could too.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:26 am to
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Put Chubb in our anemic offense and he would've averaged 3 YPC this season, he's not physically talented enough to look elite if he doesn't have help from a solid passing game


A solid passing game? You do know that Georgia passed for 17 yards a game more than LSU, right? Was that the difference in anemic and solid?
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:28 am to
LSU fans weren't the ones hyping him the guy was literally heralded as a once in a lifetime prospect by every single recruiting service out there. And everyone knows that if he would've picked alabama you delusional morons would be screaming about how he's the Michael Jordan of football if he broke the Bama freshman running record without a quarterback. Power running backs typically hit their peak until later in their careers compared to finesse guys like Chubb (see Jeremy Hill) so it's really not far fetched to be excited about the future from our record breaking #1 overall prospect that showed vast improvement every time he stepped on the field. You should go watch LF's kick return against notre dame and get back to me about that 4.5+
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:28 am to
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georgia fans who have once again made some insecure comment about chubb being the best, like they are inculcating it to themselves or they have once again brought up the comparison. so to me, no.



So, LSU fans don't make those comments concering LF?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:30 am to
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compared to finesse guys like Chubb


You've never seen Chubb run, have you?

Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:35 am to
Hutson mason had a 70% completion percentage, and threw for 21 TD's and 4 INT's. He was clearly a threat to keep opponents out of the box and off balance. Fournette ran all season in a stacked box because they knew that Jennings couldn't complete anything more than a 5 yard pass. Thanks for the input though, since yards per game really tells the whole story when it comes to passing and all
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:39 am to
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no excuses. fournette is better.


Base upon what? His High School career? What scouts say that based their opinion on what he did in high School?
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:40 am to
Yea actually I just watched his highlight video and in 11/13 of the runs that were showcased, he went virtually untouched to the end zone and made guys miss by juking. Just because he shows power at the end of some runs and trucked a few people doesn't mean he has a power running style, he obviously doesn't and you're reaching ridiculously far if you want to make him out to be a power back
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:41 am to
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Fournette ran all season in a stacked box


You didn't watch any of our games, did you? You had 17 fewer passing yards a game than us. I wouldn't say we a were a bigger threat to throw the ball. Seriously? You think 17 passing yards a game made the difference? Chubb ran against stacked boxes, too.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:42 am to
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Yea actually I just watched his highlight video and in 11/13 of the runs that were showcased, he went virtually untouched to the end zone and made guys miss by juking.


Mind sharing the link to that? He had more yards after contact than Gurley did. He was hit behind the line 48% of the time he carried the ball.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:44 am to
Literally just addressed that, dumbass. Why don't you quote the rest of my post and answer that question for yourself. UGA's passing game was EFFICIENT. Mason had a 70% completion percentage compared to Jennings' 48% and he threw for 21 touchdowns compared to Jennings who threw half that amount. Do you not understand why YPG aren't really significant when you're talking about how much of a threat a quarterback is?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44801 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:46 am to
Can we just agree that Chubb was the better back last year, but Fournette could definitely be better than Chubb this year (but it's nowhere close to guaranteed)?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:49 am to
No, he has to beat you over the head with WHY WHY WHY Chubb seemed to be better.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20496 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:49 am to
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Power running backs typically hit their peak until later in their careers compared to finesse guys like Chubb
wat
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:49 am to
I'm not even sitting here saying that Chubb isn't going to be better next year, he might be or he might not be. I jumped in this thread because of the ridiculous claims that Fournette runs a 4.7, etc. Seems like y'all's fan base is freakishly eager to make LF seem like a below average back for whatever reason when he was the 2nd best in the SEC as a freshman. Not sure if y'all feel threatened or what but I completely agree with what you said, it's just sad that every thread I open that talks about LF has Georgia fans making shite up to take away from his talent
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26184 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:51 am to
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Mind sharing the link to that? He had more yards after contact than Gurley did. He was hit behind the line 48% of the time he carried the ball.



MOTHERfrickING FACTS
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:51 am to
What's so hard for you to understand about that? Most guys don't go from running over 160 LB kids to trucking full grown men their freshman year. As I said, see Jeremy Hill. I keep giving clear examples of what I'm talking about and your moron fan base keeps responding with subjectivity. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation then get out
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60663 posts
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:54 am to
The passing games were virtually even. We threw for 17 more yards a game more than LSU. Do you REALLY think a team will stack the box or NOT stack the box based upon 17 yards a game?
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