re: Chris Rainey arrested

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I don't agree with your use of "most". There were some, yes. Again, though, the majority immediately condemned it and asked that a severe punishment, up to being kicked out of school and off the team, be meted out.

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Thats fair. It could have been my gut reaction (the minority can definitely overshadow the majority at times). I would need to go back and re-read. I'm not gonna do that, it'll mke me mad no matter what. I'll take your word on it.

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All of that said, that there were ANY who would be more concerned about getting Rainey on the field or that "it's not a big deal" or "boys will be boys", etc. is appalling. I agree with that.

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Which is what probably contributed to my gut reaction.

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Given the situation with the UVA lacrosse players, I don't think the university has any choice but hand down a severe punishment, even if the victim doesn't want charges pressed and calls it a misunderstanding. What will happen, I guess remains to be seen.

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I'm not looking for an immediate punishment. Obviously circumstances not only matter in a guilty/innocent verdict, but in what punishments are approprite as well. Given what we know right now, as well as what happened at UVA, however, I think that until there is a resolution, keeping him away from the campus as well as the football team seems a prudent thing to do.

One of the things that stood out to me is some of the posters were calling the cops out for asking her to call him back while they were there. What would have happened IF, they went straight to Rainey, he denies it, they blow it off, then he went back after her for calling him out to the cops....

She stated that she wasnt afraid of him but that she was afraid of all the notoriety that the case was bringing and that her phone was blowing up with calls, COULD she be stating that she is not afraid of him to get some nuts off of her back for threatening her for turning him in?


Always more than one side to every story, especially victims of potential domestic violence. How often have cops arrested a guy for beating his wife while she tries to attack the cops as she is bleeding or bruised from her husband.

Not drawing any conclusions but just things that popped in my mind...

I think the media is blowing this situation way out of proportion

Chris Rainey pulled a Cecil Collins. I am sure he will be playing this weekend.

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I think the media is blowing this situation way out of proportion

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In what way? If yu had a daughter whose boyfriend sent her a text message that read, "Time to die" then I'm betting you would either want his arse in jail or would be thinking about the best way to mete out your own justice.

I think the issue people are having with the cops, isn't just that they asked the girl to call him. It was that they asked her to call him and then used that call as part of the stalking charge, meaning that if they hadn't asked her to call him, he might not have bothered her again that night. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying the cops shouldn't have done anything. I personally think they should have gone to his place rather than have her call him. The last thing they should have done is put her (a person whose life was just threatened) in communication with the guy who threatened her, and then use that call as the basis for the stalking charge. Just makes no sense.

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In what way?

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The latest article I read said that the girl in no way feared for her life. She didn't want him arrested let alone charged with anything. The situation may look bad, but people should not jump to conclusions.

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Tiger Ryno

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The latest article I read said that the girl in no way feared for her life. She didn't want him arrested let alone charged with anything.

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As I stated above, many times young women in these situations are not aware of the danger they are in. I've read many interviews where families of the victims say that the victim never feared her attacker. The fact is, he sent a text that said, "time to do die." If your daughter recieved such a text and didn't have the young man arrested, would you not be deeply concerned about her? (btw- I'll say it again: there was no father present at the hearing. Thats a big red flag there).

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The situation may look bad, but people should not jump to conclusions.

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And people should not confuse reporting a threat with "the media blowing it out of proportion." Thats merely a way to dismiss any possible danger. The fact that this man would send a text like this says he has more than a few serious issues and should VERY carefully monitored.

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You do realize that the police are required to make an arrest in any situation like this right? Even if the man did absolutely nothing wrong.

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Its established that he sent the text. THAT is what is at issue. THAT is the red flag. The fact that he sent a text such as that shows severe problems. Are they severe enough to constitute a danger to her or other young women? I don't know, but its worth investigating closely.

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I understand your point on this matter but do not think the media needs to get involved when it comes to college students/players personal lives.

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Then why report an crime at all? Are crimes off limits b/c they are part of people's "personal" lives? Or is he special b/c he is a football player?

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If you know anything about women, they are not always 100% innocent. So don't play the concerned daddy role here.

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So becuase some women are not always innocent no one should, how do you put it, "play the concerned daddy role?" Why take any incident seriously then? Is it just possible that her saying, "I do not think he is a threat to me" is a sympton of her fear of either him or harrasment that has already come down on her? Did ya ever think about that? The fact is, the press needs to cover this to make sure it is handled in a fitting manner (whether he is innocent or guilty). Now, is it possible that there is no danger? Sure. But it is also possible that there is a real danger. Until that's established, best to keep him away from the students and off the team (notice I didn't say expel him or kick him off permanently).