re: Chizik's Turnaround = Amazing

Jeez, it's happened before.

Hell at least two other coaches from Iowa State have done it before - Johnny Majors and Earle Bruce.

Both of them started terribly at Iowa State...just like every other coach who takes that job.

Mack Brown started 2-20 at UNC
Frank Beamer started 5-17 at Virginia Tech
Bill Snyder started 6-16 at Kansas St

On the flip side of that coin:

Larry Coker started 30-1 at Miami
Terry Bowden started 20-0 at Auburn
Jackie Sherrill started 50-9 at Pitt

Moral of the story: you can't always judge the quality of the coach by the record of the team he inherits. Coaching at the major collegiate level is a very tough gig with all kinds of variables. Ultimately, you have to judge coaches by their LIFETIME body of work, or at the very least more than a three year window.

I know that's difficult for all of you nitwits in the ADD generation who have the attention span of a circus monkey on crack, but that's the way it is.

I don't see how chiz put such a great staff together. Outside of malazan who is good on staff?

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FYI, if you post less, you'll look less ignorant.

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How much talent did he have to replace?
Since you are the king of ISU knowledge... what did his 2-deep look like?
Isn't that why saban only won 6 games his first year? Talent was terrible?

If McCarney was such a BA, why did he get canned?

Why was Chizik given an extension if he was about to get fired?

Basing a 2 year career at a school that has won 8+ games 7 times in their entire history is ignorant.

Proof?

So Mac Brown is a terrible coach then?
1st 2 years at UNC totaled 2 wins & 20 losses.

So Johnny Majors was a terrible coach then?
1st 2 years at ISU totaled 3 wins & 14 losses.

So Gene Stallings was a terrible coach then?
1st 2 years at TAM totaled 7 wins & 12 losses. In his 7 seasons there, 4 of them inlcuded 3 wins or less.

So Bill McCartney was a terrible coach then?
1st 3 years at Coloroado totaled 7 wins & 25 losses.


And on the flip side, Larry Coker must be a fricking awesome coach then?
1st 2 years at Miami totaled 24 wins & 1 loss.


etc
etc
etc



Basically, you fail at math. Using a 2 year window to base your opinion on for ANY coach is fricking incredibly ignorant.
Learn statistics, fricktard.

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Outside of malazan who is good on staff?

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trooper has been recruiter of the year 3 times.

luper is also fantastic recruiter, and has had 5 1000 yd rushers in a row now

grimes has done a terrific job with the oline

Rocker is the best DL coach in the nation

boulware is alright, gotten a little better since last year

roof is great in the 2nd half

thigpen has been a top 10 recruiter 2 times as well, and has done an alright job

lolley is the weakest coach on the team IMO

our coaching staff is second to none in the sec

Okay buddy, whatever makes you feel better.

Bro, if it makes YOU feel better, then I will agree with you.

He was set up to fail at Iowa State. I have no idea why he ever took that job.

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Bro, if it makes YOU feel better, then I will agree with you.

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Hahah.. I was just messing around with you.

I could care less. That wasn't the point of my post.

The point was, with as fickle as college football is (coaching changes, players leaving early, players getting kicked out, injuries, schedule, etc), basing your opinion on a coach based on a 2 year window is beyond retarded.

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What do you attribute the turnaround to?

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Who were Chizik's OC and DC at the previous school?