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re: Chicken, the Gumps are going to count Philly 2024 as another bogus natty
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:13 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:13 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:14 pm to 3down10
Passing.
He went from sailing the ball over bama wideouts heads and getting pulled for a freshman to runner up for a Heisman
Here’s his stats by year in college.
Bama
2016 15 240 382 62.8 2,780 7.3 23 9 139.1
2017 14 154 255 60.4 2,081 8.2 17 1 150.2
2018 13 51 70 72.9 765 10.9 8 2 196.7
Ou
2019 14 237 340 69.7 3,851 11.3 32 8 191.2
Night and day different qb
He went from sailing the ball over bama wideouts heads and getting pulled for a freshman to runner up for a Heisman
Here’s his stats by year in college.
Bama
2016 15 240 382 62.8 2,780 7.3 23 9 139.1
2017 14 154 255 60.4 2,081 8.2 17 1 150.2
2018 13 51 70 72.9 765 10.9 8 2 196.7
Ou
2019 14 237 340 69.7 3,851 11.3 32 8 191.2
Night and day different qb
This post was edited on 2/9/25 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:17 pm to cas4t
Except he only played one year at Oklahoma dip shite. 
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:17 pm to cas4t
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OU 2018 13 51 70 72.9 765 10.9 8 2 196.7 2019 14 237 340 69.7 3,851 11.3 32 8 191.2
He was still at Bama in 2018. Came in and won the SEC championship that year when Tua got hurt.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:18 pm to cajunbama
That was a typo on my phone
Will edit. That’s the year he got pulled/couldn’t be developed
Will edit. That’s the year he got pulled/couldn’t be developed
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:19 pm to MykTide
I’m aware, I recall the game
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:24 pm to cas4t
Let the gumps have it, they are having hard times rn
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:25 pm to cas4t
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Passing.
He went from sailing the ball over bama wideouts heads and getting pulled for a freshman to runner up for a Heisman
Here’s his stats by year in college.
Bama
2016 15 240 382 62.8 2,780 7.3 23 9 139.1
2017 14 154 255 60.4 2,081 8.2 17 1 150.2
2018 13 51 70 72.9 765 10.9 8 2 196.7
Ou
2019 14 237 340 69.7 3,851 11.3 32 8 191.2
Night and day different qb
The stats you quote are better in 2018 when he was at Alabama.
He went to the school that let him showcase his talents best. That is what Oklahoma did for him. Which was great, but as I said previously he had the same habits.
I'm glad he's had success in the NFL, I didn't expect it.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:26 pm to nicholastiger
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Best thing hurts did was get away from saban
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:01 pm to 3down10
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The stats you quote are better in 2018 when he was at Alabama.
No, they aren’t.
He threw the ball a total of 70 times in 2018. His % and rating only slightly dropped below 2018 because he had so many more attempts.
Look, I get it. It’s a tough pill to swallow.
The dude was serviceable at Bama.Not great, was average most of the time, with flashes of good, and other times flashes of not so good.
He then went to OU and blew up and would have won the Heisman in most other years had it not been for Burrow having a generational type year. And the rest is history. Bama certainly played a role in his success. Not implying otherwise. But they did not develop him into an NFL qb in terms of the actual skills we see today.
That all showed itself once he got into a qb friendly system with an offensive minded coach that knew better how to utilize and develop him.
And I’m not saying Riley is a better coach than Saban. Im saying what Jalen needed, Riley knew how to provide. Im not sure bama was committed to developing him once Tua came along. I also think Riley is better at developing QBs than most other coaches, even if he is a little bitch then ran from the SEC
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:33 pm to cas4t
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No, they aren’t.
He threw the ball a total of 70 times in 2018. His % and rating only slightly dropped below 2018 because he had so many more attempts.
Look, I get it. It’s a tough pill to swallow.
The dude was serviceable at Bama.Not great, was average most of the time, with flashes of good, and other times flashes of not so good.
He then went to OU and blew up and would have won the Heisman in most other years had it not been for Burrow having a generational type year. And the rest is history. Bama certainly played a role in his success. Not implying otherwise. But they did not develop him into an NFL qb in terms of the actual skills we see today.
That all showed itself once he got into a qb friendly system with an offensive minded coach that knew better how to utilize and develop him.
And I’m not saying Riley is a better coach than Saban. Im saying what Jalen needed, Riley knew how to provide. Im not sure bama was committed to developing him once Tua came along. I also think Riley is better at developing QBs than most other coaches, even if he is a little bitch then ran from the SEC
The problem is none of that is true.
His stats were better at Oklahoma because he went to a high powered offense in a conference where nobody played defense. They played 3 teams that finished ranked the entire year. #25/UR Texas, #12/#13 Baylor and LSU. That was it.
His 2018 stats were against better competition overall, and his years before that were starting as a true freshman and a true sophomore, before many QBs ever see the field. All that improvement in those 3 years sure as hell didn't come from Riley.
Again, he went to the offense that allowed him to showcase his skills the best. Which was the advice given to him by Saban. And obviously Oklahoma was a great choice given their offenses at that time.
I asked you to tell me where he improved, all you can do is quote stats without context. Well, there is your context. Now, where do you think he improved?
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:15 pm to 3down10
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asked you to tell me where he improved, all you can do is quote stats without context. Well, there is your context. Now, where do you think he improved?
I did answer this. I said he became a better passer. Which he did. You can discount all the stats you want. But NFL Hurts looks a lot closer to OU Hurts, and not so much Bama Hurts. Sure the competition was less in the Big 12, but it carried over to….the NFL. He was not getting drafted without going to OU. Period. OU developed him into an NFL QB. Denying that is like denying the sky is blue.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:18 pm to 3down10
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I asked you to tell me where he improved, all you can do is quote stats without context. Well, there is your context. Now, where do you think he improved?
Now we have sad Bammers insinuating he didn't improve.
Yikes.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:19 pm to cas4t
Wait, are you saying Hurts was a better passer as a senior than as a true freshman and during his sophomore slump season?
Wow, how insightful.
Wow, how insightful.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:24 pm to 3down10
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His 2018 stats were against better competition overall
Also, which games? Because he averaged like 5 passing attempts a game in 2018. I am not exaggerating. It’s like 5.3.
He threw 6 passes vs LSU
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:26 pm to cajunbama
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Wait, are you saying Hurts was a better passer as a senior than as a true freshman and during his sophomore slump season? Wow, how insightful.
The best comparison is 2018 and 2019 given those are the years many QBs tend to flourish and declare for the NFL.
Hurts averaged 5 passing attempts a game in 2018 with Bama.
Does that seem like developing someone for the NFL?
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:33 pm to cajunbama
Let’s play a game called “which of the years looks like the team that is developing a future Super Bowl winning QB”
It’s a tough one for me. I think I’m gonna go with the top there, if I’m looking to develop someone to play QB professionally in 1940
It’s a tough one for me. I think I’m gonna go with the top there, if I’m looking to develop someone to play QB professionally in 1940
Posted on 2/9/25 at 11:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Now we have sad Bammers insinuating he didn't improve. Yikes.
Dude
And they’ll reference the year they pulled him and told him to transfer as a year he “really developed”
It’s hysterical
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:17 am to cas4t
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Also, which games? Because he averaged like 5 passing attempts a game in 2018. I am not exaggerating. It’s like 5.3.
He threw 6 passes vs LSU
He played backup snaps, but 0 against LSU. Not that I think LSU has had a good defense in the past 10 years really.
One of the reasons he is a legend is because of what he did in the 2018 SEC Championship where he lead a come back against Georgia. Response for 2 TDs in the 4th quarter. Went 7 for 9, 82 yards and TD passing, and then had a 15 yard rush for another to seal the game.
Which was almost fairy tale considering what happened against Georgia the year before where he was completely shut down.
Tua had a QBR 29.2 in the game, some would say due to injury but Georgia just had his number I think.
He never came close to facing a defense that good in 2019.
Against Auburn he threw 1 pass for a 53 yard TD, that was funny.
Ask a random Oklahoma fan what issues Hurts had as their QB. Then go ask a random Alabama fan the same question. You'll likely get the same response about bailing on plays and running to the right. Because that is what he did.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 1:23 am to 3down10
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Not that I think LSU has had a good defense in the past 10 years really.
Shows just how little you know.
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