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re: Check in if your school has more retroactive football national titles than legit NCs

Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:34 am to
Posted by BusinessKnight
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 8:34 am to
This era of everyone gets a (national championship) trophy is sickening. Alabama started the chit with their inane claims to pseudo championships.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:03 am to
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Alabama started the chit with their inane claims to pseudo championships.



Actually in all fairness to the Bama folks I believe they were reactionary to Notre Dame's retro claims
Posted by CrimsonDynasty
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:07 am to
Enough of the "check in" posts ffs.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:10 am to
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Kentucky claims a retro title? Who awarded it to them? The school newspaper?

1950. #1 in Jeff Sagarin's formula that didn't exist until 1978. They made a fake crystal football trophy but got rid of it for obvious reasons.



I have never been able to find a list of Sagarin national championships. Can anyone link to it?

I don't trust some "List of cfb national championships" that includes Sagarin. I've seen at least one university website that claims a Sagarin title but with no other reference other than themselves claiming it.
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 9:13 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:11 am to
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Auburn, Florida, and LSU are the good ones, only claiming AP/Coaches.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:17 am to
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I have never been able to find a list of Sagarin national championships. Can anyone link to it?


Not a list of Sagarins only but the NCAA record books PDF has them all listed when they list each years breakout
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 9:22 am to
Check in if your conference name counts schools that bolted for other conferences.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:14 am to
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Alabama retroactively claimed 5 in the 80s.
Georgia retroactively claimed 1 in the 80s.
Kentucky retroactively claimed 1 in the 80s.

Auburn, Florida, and LSU are the good ones, only claiming AP/Coaches.

Alabama's '25 and'26 championships were awarded them by the only two recognized organizations around back then (NELMS and NCF)

1930. Notre Dame and Alabama were unbeaten monsters. The majority of humans and numbers side with Notre Dame’s brutal schedule over Alabama’s greater dominance, with SRS considering these Irish an all-time great.Bama’s claim is sound.

1934: Minnesota has most of the contemporary and retroactive selectors and had the year’s best win (at Pitt), though Alabama played two more games after the Gophers were done, including a win over previously unbeaten Stanford, and beat a couple teams better than any of the non-Pitt stuff on Minnesota’s schedule. Both claims are valid.

1941 is a bullshite claim on Alabama's part, but the '66 robbery of an undefeated Alabama team who was undefeated the year before, too, evens things out, so.....
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 10:25 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:20 am to
and they were retro actively claimed by alabama...
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:23 am to
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1950. #1 in Jeff Sagarin's formula that didn't exist until 1978. They made a fake crystal football trophy but got rid of it for obvious reasons.



Kentucky most likely would have been national champions in 1950 if the AP and Coaches awarded their championships after the post-season in those days. They defeated the national champion Oklahoma Sooners in the Sugar Bowl. Granted, Oklahoma might not have been playing their best because the season was over and the championship was all wrapped up, but Kentucky still got the W.

Posted by coachcrisp
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:28 am to
I wasn't stating it any differently.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:33 am to
dont forget about Aggie retroactively claiming conference championships they didnt win
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:36 am to
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1950. #1 in Jeff Sagarin's formula that didn't exist until 1978. They made a fake crystal football trophy but got rid of it for obvious reasons.


Almost as bad as giving a new coach a fake national championship trophy with an open date on its placard.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:49 am to
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This board, over the last couple of weeks, is pretty much nothing but sips and coonasses trolling aggy. It's moved beyond mere obsession. These people need help


Apparently the trolls don't need help with material.. aggy is obsessed with providing that.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26148 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 10:53 am to
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Apparently the trolls don't need help with material.. aggy is obsessed with providing that.



Making fun of aggy is like shooting fish in a barrel. The punchlines write themselves.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 11:24 am to
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Making fun of aggy is like shooting fish in a barrel. The punchlines write themselves.



SWC/B12 fans enjoyed a century of entertainment provided by aggy. SEC brethren are getting all that squeezed into an eight year window thanks to the internet.
Posted by bXII
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 12:23 pm to
Can you imagine if the internet existed during the era when Aggie won a conference title at a rate similar to the return of the locusts? It would have been solid gold.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:57 pm to
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Ohio State can go frick themselves. Play a bowl game, pussies.

Georgia hasn’t retroactively claimed any, but they probably should. They could certainly stake claims to ‘27, and ‘46.

In ‘46 they were the only unbeaten, untied team in the country and of the three teams named champs by at least one major poll, Georgia was the only one to win its bowl game.

The Big 10 didn't allow members to play in bowl games back then.
Sorry, but y'all didn't claim 1942 until sometime in the 80s.

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