re: CFB Data Warehouse: All-Time Program Rankings

Bama at the top?


Knew it before I opened the thread.

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This is the correct list:

Prestige

1. Oklahoma
2. USC
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
5. Nebraska
6. Bama
7. Texas
8. Michigan
9. FSU
10. Miami

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Gee...that was printed in January 2009. Wonder what Bama would be now?

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This is the correct list:

Prestige

1. Oklahoma
2. USC
3. Ohio State
4. Notre Dame
5. Nebraska
6. Bama
7. Texas
8. Michigan
9. FSU
10. Miami

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Gee...that was printed in January 2009. Wonder what Bama would be now?

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Add the points for 2 more national championships, a heisman winner, and All-Americans. Major bowl wins, 10 win seasons, beating AP #1, weeks as AP #1, 1st round draft picks, conference championship.

I would love to see this updated.

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Bama might be ahead of Nebraska by now

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Just counting part of the points that Bama has added since then, looks like we might jump all the way to #3 above Ohio State.

And as long as Coach Saban stays at Alabama, we're not finished.

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Really shows you how the South didn't become powerful nationally in football until recently. Kept it regional and insular for far too long. That's what hurts Bama...they were playing in a protective vacuum for awhile.

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Celebrating the 4th hard huh? Put down the creature and go take a nap. When you wake up delete your account.

Well that dude needs to do something because that whole paragraph I quoted might be the most asinine thing I have ever read.

Well I just saw "protected shell" and the first thing I thought was Rose Bowl. The PAC and B1G made it their game because they got tired of southern teams beating the shite out if them. That's a protected shell. And let's not forget the B1G's refusal to join the Bowl Coalition in the early 90s. Also who was the first conference to risk itself with a championship game? Oh yeah those "protected" southern teams. I mean wow just... wow.

OK, I did a little math. I think that Alabama has added 197 points.

2 national championships (09, ll) - 50 pts
2 major bowls (09, 11) - 20 pts
2 major bowl wins (09, 11) - 20 pts
1 Best win/loss record in conference regular season (09)- 10
2 Final AP top-5 finish (09, 11) - 20
1 Heisman winner - 8
1 Final AP top 6-10 finish (2010) - 6
3 Bowl appearance - 9
3 Bowl wins - 9
3 - 10 win seasons - 6
Week as AP No. 1 (10) - 20
Win over AP No. 1 (2) - 2
Each consensus All-American (9) - 9
First-round NFL draft pick (11) - 11

That should equal 200.

Now for the minus

Each year of overall probation -1x3 = -3

200-3=197

Add that to Bama's prior points, 1,534 before the 09 season.

197+1,534=1,731, good for 3rd place.

I know the other program also added points, but no NC's and major bowls would mean not a lot. And Ohio State would also have some minuses due to their probation too.

And we still have a lot of catching up to USC and OU.

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Of course it's easy to beat up on fellow white boys and claim titles over teams you lost to that season (ND and USC) but what else is new for the most shameless program in title counting.

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K.

You discredit Alabama's titles (moronically enough in an era of which the national champions were awarded BEFORE the bowl games were played), yet you seem to have absolutely no problem with OU being number one in another post, despite OU winning the title in 1950 before losing to Kentucky in their bowl game, as well as skipping out on a few bowls as well in years of which they won the title at the regular season's end (1956 and 1974).

Therefore, your argument is almost as good as Hacksaw Jim Duggan diarrhea.

ETA: USC and Ohio State (just to also name a few on that list)?

If we're going to play the BS title game in order to boost one's prestige over the other, have a look at tOSU's 1961 title. Even though 'Bama won the AP/UPI that year, 8-0-1 tOSU decided to claim a share of it based on the Football Writer's Association rankings. Then there's USC... In 1939, they finished third in the AP, but claimed a title based on the Dickinson System's rankings. And 1928? They claimed a title based on the Dickinson Rankings once again, even though Ga Tech won the Rose Bowl and finished with a better record...

Notre Dame? What about the 1966 screw job? Where they intentionally played Michigan State to a tie? Or 1977, where number 5 Notre Dame jumped number 3 Alabama after 1 and 2 lost their bowl games? The only team Notre Dame lost to that year was a team that Alabama DEMOLISHED (Ole Miss)?

So to make your argument seem more rational and unbiased, at least apply the same logic you used against Alabama in your first post against the others you claim "are far more prestigious and not shameless when it comes to title counting" as well.