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Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:11 pm to Deathrider
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I personally place a higher value on winning a conference rather than comparing losses.
Well, to each his own then. I'll bet you'll be a big fan of the Big East champ too, huh?
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Wins against quality opponents should matter more than losses.
Yeah, OSU's schedule was brutal.......... LSU then........... a bunch of teams that would flop in the SEC......... then Oklahoma who they'll lose to.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:13 pm to Teague
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Yeah, OSU's schedule was brutal.......... LSU then..........
what?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:14 pm to Teague
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then Oklahoma who they'll lose to.
This is the only way Bama becomes a lock, but writing off Oklahoma State as a loser right now would be a mistake.
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by Oklahoma State
UL-Lafayette (8-4) (Sun Belt)
Tulsa (8-4) (C-USA)
Texas A&M (6-6) (Big 12)
Texas (7-4) (Big 12)
Mizzou (7-5) (Big 12)
Baylor (8-3) (Big 12)
Kansas State (9-2) (Big 12)
In addition, they lost to bowl eligible Iowa State (6-5) (Big 12) in 3OT on the road. If they beat Oklahoma (9-2), then Oklahoma State will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1. This would also make Oklahoma State conference champions.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:14 pm to Teague
I'll repost since i got ignored once in this thread and in another thread.
Again, if OSU wins next weekend. sell me on Bama having the better resume and being more deserving of the title shot.
Again, if OSU wins next weekend. sell me on Bama having the better resume and being more deserving of the title shot.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:16 pm to Maximus
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what?
Sorry, LOUISIANA, not LSU. Forgot I wasn't looking at Oregon for a minute.
Then, Kansas, Arizona, Baylor, Tulsa, A&M, Texas, Missouri, KSU, Tex Tech, Iowa State, and Oklahoma. Wheeew, what a resume.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:20 pm to Teague
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by Alabama
Penn State (9-3) (Big 10)
Arkansas (10-2) (SEC)
Florida (6-6) (SEC)
Vanderbilt (6-6) (SEC)
Mississippi State (6-6) (SEC)
Auburn (7-5) (SEC)
They lost to bowl eligible LSU (12-0) (SEC) in OT at home. By comparison, Bama has only beaten 6 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1.
In case you missed it,
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by Oklahoma State
UL-Lafayette (8-4) (Sun Belt)
Tulsa (8-4) (C-USA)
Texas A&M (6-6) (Big 12)
Texas (7-4) (Big 12)
Mizzou (7-5) (Big 12)
Baylor (8-3) (Big 12)
Kansas State (9-2) (Big 12)
In addition, they lost to bowl eligible Iowa State (6-5) (Big 12) in 3OT on the road. If they beat Oklahoma (9-2), then Oklahoma State will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1. This would also make Oklahoma State conference champions.
Is there any wonder why the Big 12 is getting so much love in the computers right now? You mean to tell me that Alabama would have a better resume than Oklahoma State if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma? They will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams compared to only 6 beaten by Alabama. In addition, Oklahoma State would be a conference champion. How would there be a comparison?
Penn State (9-3) (Big 10)
Arkansas (10-2) (SEC)
Florida (6-6) (SEC)
Vanderbilt (6-6) (SEC)
Mississippi State (6-6) (SEC)
Auburn (7-5) (SEC)
They lost to bowl eligible LSU (12-0) (SEC) in OT at home. By comparison, Bama has only beaten 6 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1.
In case you missed it,
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by Oklahoma State
UL-Lafayette (8-4) (Sun Belt)
Tulsa (8-4) (C-USA)
Texas A&M (6-6) (Big 12)
Texas (7-4) (Big 12)
Mizzou (7-5) (Big 12)
Baylor (8-3) (Big 12)
Kansas State (9-2) (Big 12)
In addition, they lost to bowl eligible Iowa State (6-5) (Big 12) in 3OT on the road. If they beat Oklahoma (9-2), then Oklahoma State will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1. This would also make Oklahoma State conference champions.
Is there any wonder why the Big 12 is getting so much love in the computers right now? You mean to tell me that Alabama would have a better resume than Oklahoma State if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma? They will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams compared to only 6 beaten by Alabama. In addition, Oklahoma State would be a conference champion. How would there be a comparison?
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:22 pm to Teague
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And to think he said those not wanting to see Bama in the game had an agenda.
yeah.. that awful agenda..
wanting LSU to face a conference champion
not a division runner up the horror.Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:22 pm to Deathrider
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Is there any wonder why the Big 12 is getting so much love in the computers right now? You mean to tell me that Alabama would have a better resume than Oklahoma State if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma? They will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams compared to only 6 beaten by Alabama. In addition, Oklahoma State would be a conference champion. How would there be a comparison?
Also, they would have 2 wins over top-10 teams.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:26 pm to bmy
That would also help their case considerably.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:28 pm to Schwaaz
I live in Huntsville and 95% of the Bana fans i have talked to say if they had won that game on Nov 5, they would not want a rematch. So STFU about the scared crap. I really don't care if we beat ya'll 2 times in one season just make it better for next season when we beat Bama AGAIN that will make 4 in a row.
Geaux Tigers.
Geaux Tigers.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:29 pm to tiger chaser
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I agree, and I don't expect any of them to read the article, but Cecil succinctly shoots down all their whiney complaints.
I'll state it quite succinctly: you and Cecil are absolutely wrong. Cecil's argument is based on the false premise that the purpose of the BCS is to match the two best teams. I posted a link to the BCS website... there is no such stated purpose. The actual stated purpose is to match the two highest ranked teams, and there's no obligation anywhere for a voter to rank the two best teams highest.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:36 pm to Deathrider
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Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by Alabama
Penn State (9-3) (Big 10)
Arkansas (10-2) (SEC)
Florida (6-6) (SEC)
Vanderbilt (6-6) (SEC)
Mississippi State (6-6) (SEC)
Auburn (7-5) (SEC)
They lost to bowl eligible LSU (12-0) (SEC) in OT at home. By comparison, Bama has only beaten 6 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1.
In case you missed it,
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by Oklahoma State
UL-Lafayette (8-4) (Sun Belt)
Tulsa (8-4) (C-USA)
Texas A&M (6-6) (Big 12)
Texas (7-4) (Big 12)
Mizzou (7-5) (Big 12)
Baylor (8-3) (Big 12)
Kansas State (9-2) (Big 12)
In addition, they lost to bowl eligible Iowa State (6-5) (Big 12) in 3OT on the road. If they beat Oklahoma (9-2), then Oklahoma State will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams and lost to 1. This would also make Oklahoma State conference champions.
Is there any wonder why the Big 12 is getting so much love in the computers right now? You mean to tell me that Alabama would have a better resume than Oklahoma State if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma? They will have beaten 8 bowl eligible teams compared to only 6 beaten by Alabama. In addition, Oklahoma State would be a conference champion. How would there be a comparison?
It's interesting. until this year, I always thought the 2 best teams were determined objectively by determining which 2 teams had the best resume and had earned a spot in the title game.
seems like we're just skipping straight over alot of potential discussion and objective comparisons and going straight to comparing the one loss or the "we're one of the top 2 teams and you know it" argument.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:38 pm to Teague
quote:Better is a subjective term for teams with similar records that haven't played.
Who is better than Bama?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:38 pm to Teague
I did not feel like trolling the entire thread but did anyone else notice his phone number at the end? we should each call his arse.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:40 pm to lob1284
If you're curious, look at what LSU has done.
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by LSU
Oregon (10-2) (Pac-12)
Mississippi State (6-6) (SEC)
West Virginia (8-3) (Big East)
Florida (6-6) (SEC)
Auburn (7-5) (SEC)
Alabama (11-1) (SEC)
Western Kentucky (7-5) (Sun Belt)
Arkansas (10-2) (SEC)
If LSU beats Georgia, they will have beaten nine bowl eligible teams. I do agree that LSU is being left out of a lot of this discussion unless the topic turns to rematch. I think people have already accepted that LSU is in the title game unless something really bad happens. Do those same arguments against lacking a conference championship apply to LSU? They certainly would and LSU losing would create a lot of chaos in the BCS.
Bowl Eligible Teams Beaten by LSU
Oregon (10-2) (Pac-12)
Mississippi State (6-6) (SEC)
West Virginia (8-3) (Big East)
Florida (6-6) (SEC)
Auburn (7-5) (SEC)
Alabama (11-1) (SEC)
Western Kentucky (7-5) (Sun Belt)
Arkansas (10-2) (SEC)
If LSU beats Georgia, they will have beaten nine bowl eligible teams. I do agree that LSU is being left out of a lot of this discussion unless the topic turns to rematch. I think people have already accepted that LSU is in the title game unless something really bad happens. Do those same arguments against lacking a conference championship apply to LSU? They certainly would and LSU losing would create a lot of chaos in the BCS.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:45 pm to Rex
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false premise that the purpose of the BCS is to match the two best teams.
OK. What is the purpose of the BCS then?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:48 pm to TigersWon
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So STFU about the scared crap
I don't know one single scared LSU fan. In fact, the previous game just gave us confidence. The author and the OP are ignorant fools perpetuating a stereotype by even writing/posting this stuff.
It's laughable how far this fan base has fallen to resort to myths such as this to make themselves feel more relevant. Starting to remind me of Arkansas fans.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:48 pm to Teague
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I just thought I'd post this mainly for the Bama fans to read.
then what's with the thread title calling out lsu fans?
Jesus I can't wait until all this shite is over. We'll beat whoever these functional retards throw in front of us in Nola
Posted on 11/27/11 at 12:49 pm to lsurulz1515
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then what's with the thread title calling out lsu fans?
Clearly a call to Bama fans.
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