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re: Can Georgia becomes the Alabama of the east?

Posted on 7/2/18 at 7:17 am to
Posted by Scoreboard
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 7:17 am to
No - become
Posted by UnderDog68
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:18 am to
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English is far from simple.


You're right. We take it for granted, because that's our primary language. I've known Hispanic people who have told me that English, by far, was the most difficult language they ever studied.
Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:44 am to
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UGA has won something like 7 or 8 of the last 10 from AU.....


To be exact, and since Matt Stafford's Freshman year of 2006, since a previous poster brought it up, UGA is 10-3 vs. Auburn, including the 2017 SEC Title game.

This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 9:59 am to
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OK, if we hadn't blown a 20 point lead to LSU in Sept it would have mattered.


IF. Auburn's favorite word.

You keep wanting to bring up scenarios that did not happen to make a point. Why not relax, and just look at what actually happened. You don't have to dream, or pretend or say "what if". You can just take a good long look at reality.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:01 am to
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djsdawg


If your posts in this thread dont show Auburn is your super bowl I don't know that we could prove the water is wet.

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You don't have to dream, or pretend or say "what if". You can just take a good long look at reality.


Okay, Titles in your time frame, what is Auburn's reality vs UGA?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:03 am to
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I wouldn't call getting beat by 23 points owning someone.

Would you cal beating somebody 10 out of 13 games owning someone?

Hey. I admit it. Florida has owned us. We are, hopefully turning it around, but for us to say otherwise makes us look foolish.

And for Auburn fans to say Georgia hasn't owned Auburn makes you look foolish.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:05 am to
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It should be the main consideration. Why play in a Conference otherwise. Again, the playoff committee should consider the 5 Conference Champions (or a top Independent) and decide which 4 are worthy of playing.




You don't have to win your conference in any other major sport (or any other sport that I can think of) to make the playoffs. But you think it is a necessary step to take in football for some reason.
The 5 conference champions are not always the best teams. Can anyone argue that Alabama was not the best team last season? how about 2011?
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:09 am to
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Okay, Titles in your time frame, what is Auburn's reality vs UGA?



Auburn has one and Georgia has zero. See? I can admit that Auburn has had some success, but Auburn fans, for some reason don't seem to admit that Georgia has Auburn's number.

I don't get it. Georgia is 10-3 against Auburn. You don't have to like it, but it is reality. if your team doesn't like it then they should do something about it. Just like if Georgia doesn't like that their last National Title was in 1980 they should do something about it.

This isn't about pride. It is about black and white facts.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:14 am to
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Every program that isn’t an elite recruiter that has slipped into the playoffs has lost, most of them very badly. None of them have really threatened a title in reality. Washington got crushed, Michigan State got crushed, etc. Any concept of parity at the top is just hopeful.


My opinion only. I consider elite, recruiting top 5 classes. I don't remember the last time Auburn had a top 5 class, yet they won in 2010, and came very close in 2013. Auburn recruits well, but, imo, not at an elite level. They do very well with the talent they bring in.

To me, elite recruiting brings in classes that are top 5 and that allows them to build depth. Auburn has the talent to compete with schools that recruit at an elite level (Alabama, for example) but if they suffer injuries (like last year) they get into trouble quickly.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:15 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:19 am to
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You don't have to win your conference in any other major sport (or any other sport that I can think of) to make the playoffs. But you think it is a necessary step to take in football for some reason.
The 5 conference champions are not always the best teams. Can anyone argue that Alabama was not the best team last season? how about 2011?



In every other sport the playoff slots a filled FIRST with the conference (NCAA) or Divisional Champs (MLB, NFL), THEN the at-large spots are filled. But a Conference Champion is not left out unless in the case of the NCAA BB where they recognize the Conference Tournament Champion. In a 4 Team Playoff there are not enough slots for every Champion to get one, but to allow a non-champion with only 4 slots goes against every other sport. People like you have been arguing the "end justifies the means" in college football. And you are wrong. I said it before, if you give Saban enough time to prepare for a team, he could have Ole Miss in the Championship.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:20 am to
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Because they have a national championship in that time frame. Something Georgia hasn’t accomplished since what, 1980? Auburn has 2 since then.

No they don't. They have one since 1980. In fact, there was right at 60 years in between their titles.
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This goes back to the Ole Miss “but we beat Bama two times in a row” argument and it all boils down to the same answer “yeah but they won two national championships those years”.
You can make that argument, but you would be wrong. They have one as stated above. But their argument has been that Georgia has owned Auburn in the last 13 years. That narrows the argument down to head to head. Does Auburn have a NC in that time frame? yes. They beat us in that regard,. But to argue that Georgia has not owned Auburn the last 13 years is silly. And, your comment was based off recent history Auburn and Georgia would go 50/50 in our games against each other. Based off recent history that isn't anywhere close to being true.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:22 am to
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In every other sport the playoff slots a filled FIRST with the conference (NCAA) or Divisional Champs (MLB, NFL), THEN the at-large spots are filled.

Doesn't change my statement at all. In 2017, the SEC Champion went. The only time it did not play out that way was in 2016 when Penn State did not go and Ohio State did. So, your argument that Alabama should not have made it is wrong. Your argument should have been that Ohio State should not have gone in 2016.

Name me one team that did not make the playoffs that was better than Alabama last year. I will always maintain that the point of having the playoffs, is to crown the best team as champion.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:31 am to
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If your posts in this thread dont show Auburn is your super bowl I don't know that we could prove the water is wet.



You guys are the most self absorbed fan base in CFB.

So when exactly did AU become our "super bowl"? It certainly wasn't during the 80's and 90's when you guys
had the upper hand.

Amazing, when UGA starts the dominate the series the AU
guys automatically think it's our "super bowl".Unlike AU we have more the 2 rivals but somehow you guys still think you're THAT important.

BTW if Nov 11th of last year wasn't your super bowl I don't know what is.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:31 am to
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Name me one team that did not make the playoffs that was better than Alabama last year. I will always maintain that the point of having the playoffs, is to crown the best team as champion.



Again, it is earned on the field. Hell, everyone would put Bama there in August regardless of their record based on your system. When you break down the system into small pools (Conferences), you have to take the team that survived the gauntlet of those pools. Then you take those winners and slot them against other pools. Otherwise it is just another Invitational Tournament.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:36 am to

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Amazing, when UGA starts the dominate the series the AU
guys automatically think it's our "super bowl".



No its when people like you just use the head to head record during an arbitrary period as the main accomplishment. That is a "super bowl"

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Unlike AU we have more the 2 rivals


Hmmm, I didnt know AU was limited to 2 rivals

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BTW if Nov 11th of last year wasn't your super bowl I don't know what is.


Are Auburn fans using this as their only accomplishment? No. I dont think you understand how this super bowl term works, but it is hilarious to see the UGA fans mental gymnastics to prove contrary


Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:36 am to
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Again, it is earned on the field.

I understand your point, and it is legitimate.

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. Hell, everyone would put Bama there in August regardless of their record based on your system.
No. My system is deciding the best teams in November. The fact there was so much angst over who should go between OSU and Alabama proves my point. Then, add that to the fact that Alabama won the NC proves they made the right decision. Shouldn't championships be awarded to the best team in the country? I was thinking that was the whole point of having a playoff....to determine who the best team was. If it is simply to have a tournament among the conference winners, then they should have made it a 5 team playoff.

ETA
No offense, but I bet if the situation were reversed and Auburn was the recipient you would have no problem with it.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:38 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:40 am to
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No its when people like you just use the head to head record during an arbitrary period as the main accomplishment. That is a "super bowl"


I get what you are saying, but the argument started because a LSU fan said that based on recent history Auburn and Georgia would split our series 50/50 over the next 10 years. Can't you see the folly of that statement? I mean...it might go 50/50 over the next 10 years, but not based upon recent history.

ETA
Here is the exact statement he made:
. If Georgia and Auburn continue what they are doing now, the Auburn/Georgia games will be split 50/50ish over the next 10 years.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:41 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:45 am to
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The fact there was so much angst over who should go between OSU and Alabama proves my point.


Why not Wisc under your system ? It determines the best team of the 4 invited and it determines the best coach at preparing for two games 6 weeks in the future. Did the SEC recognize Bama as the best team in the SECW ? SEC? Why even have a Conference schedule or a Conference if it doesn't go toward recognizing the best team ?

I have had a problem with this system since the beginning. I thought the Committee would be influenced by the press and ESPN. The only way to eliminate any bias is to recognize Conference Champions and pick from them or go to an 8 Team Playoff. This allowed the Playoff to be no better than the BCS.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:49 am to
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I get what you are saying, but the argument started because a LSU fan said that based on recent history Auburn and Georgia would split our series 50/50 over the next 10 years. Can't you see the folly of that statement? I mean...it might go 50/50 over the next 10 years, but not based upon recent history.


I dont want to go back and nitpick, so just using this quoted statement from you

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If Georgia and Auburn continue what they are doing now,


What are they doing now? This doesnt directly mean recent history. Could just mean both are playing good ball



Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 7/2/18 at 10:51 am to
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BTW if Nov 11th of last year wasn't your super bowl I don't know what is.


2017: Auburn wins both of their super bowls with only a co-division title and loss to a mid-major to show for it. Meanwhile, their rivals still win rings and hardware.

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