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Posted on 10/7/09 at 10:20 am to nycajun
He's got small/weak bones - which is why AU didn't give him a "committable" offer.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 10:21 am to h0nkifuvcoached4bama
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He's got small/weak bones - which is why AU didn't give him a "committable" offer.
LMFAO.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 10:28 am to h0nkifuvcoached4bama
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He's got small/weak bones - which is why AU didn't give him a "committable" offer.
Hahaa, yea, the guy played with a broken jaw... I guess he's a real pussy.
I don't care how big/strong your bones are, if you get drilled in the jaw by helmet launched at you, I doubt there are many players who would come out of it unscathed.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 10:28 am to dawgorama
Damn.
Alem is coming from the BACKSIDE. C. King TURNS around and gets nailed. If not for the turn, the hit would be in his BACK.
I honestly hate that the young man was injured and wish him a speedy recovery, but ALem was CHASING the play. Not coming "head on"
Alem is coming from the BACKSIDE. C. King TURNS around and gets nailed. If not for the turn, the hit would be in his BACK.
I honestly hate that the young man was injured and wish him a speedy recovery, but ALem was CHASING the play. Not coming "head on"
Posted on 10/7/09 at 10:42 am to dawgorama
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Conclusion, iyo?
I'll weigh in after others have a chance to express their opinions. After all, I've seen the damn thing a dozen times during the editing process.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 10:46 am to S
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kings jaw probably dropped and thus, broke, when he looked at al woods, chad jones' brother!
FAIL
Al Woods is not the brother of Chad Jones.
Rahim Alem (formerly Al Jones) is the brother of Chad Jones.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:01 am to RelientAA
RelientAA
You are a dick!! Since when is it funny when a player gets hurt...a-hole!
You are a dick!! Since when is it funny when a player gets hurt...a-hole!
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:03 am to davesdawgs
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The video confirms what I saw in the snapshot, Alem was spearing, that is launching himself at the runner with his head down with the top of his helmet directed at King;
He was chasing the play and dove for the runner. Any time you dive while you are chasing a runner, your helmet is going to be leading. If this is a penalty, you might as well say you can't leave you feet in football. The pussification of football continues.Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:10 am to arrakis
Oh yes...he definitely led with his head and should have had a flag...better yet thrown out.
I don't care who you play for that kind of shite is wrong!
I don't care who you play for that kind of shite is wrong!
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:13 am to jaf 65
He lead with the crown of his helmet which is I think the definition of a spear.
Should have been a 15yd penalty.
Should have been a 15yd penalty.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:15 am to arrakis
In real time, it's pretty hard to see, but looking at the slo-mo, it appears that Alem launched his tackle and that King turned/was turned toward Alem simultaneously. From Alem's point of view, it appears to have looked as if King was going away from him when he began the tackle.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:18 am to nycajun
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In real time, it's pretty hard to see, but looking at the slo-mo, it appears that Alem launched his tackle and that King turned/was turned toward Alem simultaneously. From Alem's point of view, it appears to have looked as if King was going away from him when he began the tackle.
Wouldn't that mean he would just spear him in the back?
Here is the rule, I think:
"No player shall use his helmet (including the face mask) to butt or ram an opponent or attempt to punish him. There shall be no spearing. No player shall strike a runner with the crown or the top of his helmet...."
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:23 am to dawgorama
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Wouldn't that mean he would just spear him in the back?
If I AIM to hit you with my shoulder and you turn toward me (most human do not pivot on an axis that is a vertical center of Gravity of the body, but around one foot)....especially in a football game context with another player wrapped around your legs; it does not necessarily follow that my helmet hitting you was the intent of my actions.
Your turn may move your body from just off of my shoulders to right onto my helmet.
This is ridiculous. Outcome, in this case, does not indicate intent. In fact, it would have taken a pretty nifty bit of calculation for Alem to have planned this "spear".
Football is a contact sport. Again, I regret the man's injury. But, NOTHING in that video shows intent to spear.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:25 am to dawgorama
Spearing is clearly a judgment call, and to some extent involves the referee's perception of intent. In any event, my observation went not to whether he was technically guilty of spearing, but to whether the injury to King's jaw was purely a result of Alem aiming at his head, or if it resulted in part from the way King turned (or was turned by Coleman's tackle)after Alem was committed to his action. Either way, it's too bad the kid was injured,and I hope he recovers quickly. You'll need him against Florida.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:28 am to nycajun
I really don't think intent matters. If the player leads with the crown of the helmet then it is a penalty.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:33 am to nycajun
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Spearing is clearly a judgment call, and to some extent involves the referee's perception of intent. In any event, my observation went not to whether he was technically guilty of spearing, but to whether the injury to King's jaw was purely a result of Alem aiming at his head, or if it resulted in part from the way King turned (or was turned by Coleman's tackle)after Alem was committed to his action. Either way, it's too bad the kid was injured,and I hope he recovers quickly. You'll need him against Florida.
FWIW, I don't think Alem intended to injure King, I do think Alem led with the crown of his helmet. I don't know if the play should've been flagged (nor do I care at this point). I agree about King. Hell we'll need everyone just to beat UT.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:33 am to dawgorama
great article
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True freshman Washaun Ealey and sophomore Caleb King will carry the bulk of the load for Georgia against Tennessee, in the wake of King's injury.
Posted on 10/7/09 at 11:41 am to arrakis
I-59 and arrakis, consider the source? read this kids profile. it isn't funny but it is football and what are people in Kentucky saying about the hit that Tim Tebow took in that game? So much not taking into count here at thimes???
and i sincerely believe that you too post great and many times T.I.C. funny information ...
and i sincerely believe that you too post great and many times T.I.C. funny information ...
Posted on 10/7/09 at 12:13 pm to LSUownsSEC
Let's review what the rule book says:
Points of Emphasis
9-1-3a
There's only one view of the play and it's not the best, but that's all we've got.
The key is "targeting"... If you look at the video, 24 is attempting to make the tackle and grabs the runner's legs. The runner is twisting and starting to go down. As he does, 84 hits the runner with the crown of his helmet. Because the runner is turning and 84 is within a step, I don't see the hit rising to the standard of "targeting".
However you interpret, it's another example of how a still picture doesn't tell the whole story.
Points of Emphasis
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players and coaches should emphasize the elimination of targeting and initiating contact against a defenseless opponent and/or with the crown of the helmet.
9-1-3a
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No player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul.
There's only one view of the play and it's not the best, but that's all we've got.
The key is "targeting"... If you look at the video, 24 is attempting to make the tackle and grabs the runner's legs. The runner is twisting and starting to go down. As he does, 84 hits the runner with the crown of his helmet. Because the runner is turning and 84 is within a step, I don't see the hit rising to the standard of "targeting".
However you interpret, it's another example of how a still picture doesn't tell the whole story.
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