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re: Brey Cook's Press Conference is at 6pm tonight

Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:08 pm to
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why? so we can use offer list as the end-all-to-the-be-all? That's the only thing you'll be doing...


Put up the highlight video's and let everyone decide for themselves. (Although, the offer list should be pretty indicative of their respective talent.. but hell I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.)
Posted by Webby
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:09 pm to
I'm sure if given the choice Arkansas would take Frazier over Allen. Not saying that Allen isn't a solid QB, but Frazier's potential is through the roof. He's one of the better QBs of the last few recruiting classes.
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:10 pm to
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How would you know who was better???


I have watched both of their highlights and I have a pretty good idea.
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I know you have never seen them play in person..

You don't "KNOW" that
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If i am not mistaken he beat Frazier last year.


Unless it was 1v1 I'm pretty sure there are other factors that might have played into that.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:10 pm to
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I'm sure if given the choice Arkansas would take Frazier over Allen. Not saying that Allen isn't a solid QB, but Frazier's potential is through the roof. He's one of the better QBs of the last few recruiting classes.


This coming from a Bama fan, Arkies... just sayin'.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:11 pm to
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You couldn't possibly be a tad bit biased, could you?


No, i like Frazier and hope he does well at Auburn but they both were in the state QB competition last year and Allen won the arm strength contest by throwing the ball 74 yards, Frazier threw the ball 64 yards. Allen finished 2nd in the accuracy contest and Frazier finished 4th. Allen is a better QB. IMHO

ETA: Allen had more yards last year also
This post was edited on 7/6/10 at 3:13 pm
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:12 pm to
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I'm sure if given the choice Arkansas would take Frazier over Allen. Not saying that Allen isn't a solid QB, but Frazier's potential is through the roof. He's one of the better QBs of the last few recruiting classes.


Both are quality QB's and were offered the same day by Arkansas...I'm not going to say Allen is better than Fraizer or vice versa
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:13 pm to
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Allen won the arm strength contest by throwing the ball 74 yards, Frazier threw the ball 64 yards.

Didn't Kodi Burns throw it like 84?

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Allen finished 2nd in the accuracy contest and Frazier finished 4th.

And a one time competition is indicative of who the better QB is?

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Allen is a better QB. IMHO

Important phrase is in bold.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:14 pm to
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I'm sure if given the choice Arkansas would take Frazier over Allen. Not saying that Allen isn't a solid QB, but Frazier's potential is through the roof. He's one of the better QBs of the last few recruiting classes.


Both are great QB's i wouldn't take one over the other.
Posted by Webby
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:14 pm to
Throwing a ball 74 yards really doesn't matter unless he threw the ball 74 yards into a barrel. Don't bother looking because he didn't.

I don't know what stats you're looking at, but my guess is that Allen didn't win the percentage competition in a landslide. I'm sure the top 5 or so all most likely finished within 5% difference of each other.

You can't teach Frazier's instincts and athletic ability. That's why he's recruited well and that's why he's stacked up offers.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:14 pm to
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Didn't Kodi Burns throw it like 84?


I don't recall that
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:15 pm to

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You can't teach Frazier's instincts and athletic ability.


FWIW Allen and Frazier's 40 times are almost the same.
Posted by Marines4Auburn
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:16 pm to
Hell Cam Newton can throw a ball farther than anyone in the SEC probably but that doesn't mean much.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:16 pm to
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Allen is a better QB. IMHO

ETA: Allen had more yards last year also


First, they didnt play each other last year so Allen didn't beat Frazier. Second, Brandon Allen led his team to a 4-5-1 record...Frazier went 13-1. I will take the winner who can't throw as far.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:16 pm to
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I don't recall that


He threw it ridiculously far, I remember that. Point was, Kodi Burns is now one of our top WR's.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:16 pm to
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Hell Cam Newton can throw a ball farther than anyone in the SEC probably but that doesn't mean much.


Ryan Mallett says hi.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:17 pm to
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Ryan Mallett says hi.


I'd pay to watch that QB competition. That would be a damn good show.
Posted by Webby
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:18 pm to
If numbers determined athletic ability and furthermore ability to play your position, players like Clint Moseley, Dylan Favre, The younger Rivers, etc would be 5* recruits with offers from every powerhouse program in the nation.
Posted by Webby
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:19 pm to
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I will take the winner who can't throw as far.


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Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:19 pm to
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First, they didnt play each other last year so Allen didn't beat Frazier. Second, Brandon Allen led his team to a 4-5-1 record...Frazier went 13-1. I will take the winner who can't throw as far.


Allen plays in 7A and that is a unreal tough conference and Frazier plays in 4A and has only one challenger and that team beat them last year.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 7/6/10 at 3:20 pm to
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I'd pay to watch that QB competition. That would be a damn good show.


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