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re: Best Facilities in the SEC?

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Posted by SwayzeBalla
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Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:03 am to
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Was that one of the ones beyond the endzone?


No that is on top of the north endzone. All they did to those was move the field to help sightlines and do stuff on the exterior and lower level interior. Those are still the cheap seats.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:06 am to
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You see the difference right?


Let me tell you what I saw, and you apparently missed...

Every suite at Tiger Stadium has both inside and outside seating, for a superior overall viewing experience. Not many stadiums can say the same.



And that is true of Tiger Stadium's club seating as well.



The bottom two rows in the pic below are suites. The middle two rows are club seating. The top row is the best visitor's seating in the country. The closest exits, restrooms and concessions anywhere. And probably the best Standing Room Only (SRO) spaces in any stadium.



Just doesn't get any better than that.


This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 9:14 am
Posted by tigerbait2010
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:12 am to
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I love how our fans think we have the best facilities in the country when we don't even have the best facilities in our division. Then they want to bitch and moan about the coaches when they don't land x recruit because players shouldn't want to play anywhere else. As if other schools around the country don't have anything to offer. Its sad and pathetic.




I totally agree, but mainly because the football operations center is well past its prime. it's not ugly, but it's no longer some huge selling point for recruits like it was.

The Alex Box bias is MIND BOGGLING. Bertman did an absolute horrible job with that project. LSU dropped way more money than anyone else and got screwed.

bleacher seats? give me a break. plus, LSU could really use a nice 360 degree concourse around the stadium. My only rationale is that it's just the foundation for what the box will eventually be, but between the West Side expansion and new Box, Bertman did a painfully horrible job on those projects.


The LSU fans who say the Box is nicer than Baum are high as a kite
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:18 am to
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I totally agree, but mainly because the football operations center is well past its prime. it's not ugly, but it's no longer some huge selling point for recruits like it was.


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The school plans to renovate the football operations complex and the west club level of Tiger Stadium, Athletic Director Joe Alleva said Sunday.

“The next big project is renovation of the football ops building,” Alleva said.

The weight room will be expanded, and the player’s lounge, locker room and meeting rooms will get facelifts.


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Posted by tigerbait2010
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:21 am to
Much needed. I want Bernie Moore to be next in line. It's criminal LSU's track program doesn't have the top facilities in the country.

Like 2009 I stumbled across some amazing renderings of what they wanted to do with Moore in a preseason guide, but I can't find them anymore. I'm not sure if they scratched the plans or just have it delayed
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:26 am to
While those are nicer than the ones I found pics of, you still don't see difference? Carpet vs hardwood. Drop ceiling vs wood beams. More carpet and cheap tables vs cushion chairs and bistro tables. More drop ceiling tile vs chandliers, stones, brick, etc. tables for 4 vs tables for 2, 4, and 10. Endzone vs sideline. Almost all aspects of Kyle's are higher end finishes and in a better location (at least than the ones you just showed).
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:28 am to
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delayed


Would be my guess. Alleva is on record saying the sand volleyball team would get a stadium for next season. LSU is studying whether it's more cost effective to rebuild the current tennis center into a sand volleyball stadium or just tear it down and build new. That's also why the plans for the volleyball practice facility were canked. Remember, it was supposed to be built onto the new gymnastic practice facility. Now only the gymnastic practice facility is being built.

Of course, the holdup to these plans is the progress of the new tennis center currently being built. Will be one of the largest in the country when done, and that's only phase one.

Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:30 am to
TigersOfGeauxld, Do you have any pics of the high end seating at Alex Box. I was curious what it looked like. And I guess that goes for anyone else in this thread. What does the club / suites at Braum, Carolina, etc look like?
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:31 am to
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...you still don't see difference?


Still missing the point I made. The Founder's Suites are supposed to be nicer than the average suite...that's the point. What LSU did with Tiger Stadium's suites was offer a uniformly superior viewing experience to every suite.

Big difference in design philosophy.

Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:38 am to
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TigersOfGeauxld, Do you have any pics of the high end seating at Alex Box. I was curious what it looked like


Just for future reference, you don't need to ask Tiger fans for pics. LSU makes it very easy...unlike most schools...to obtain pics of premium seating in any of our venues by visiting TAF.



Again, notice that each suite also has outside seating available. That is a design standard at LSU.


Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:40 am to
But half the stuff I posted wasn;t founder suites. That covers the rest of the suites on the east and west sides (sidelines). To me sideline >>> endzone for viewing. And I don;t see how viewing experience is any different. Both have nice seats outside of the suite. LSU's had 3 rows, A&M's had 2 rows. I would think 2 > 3 of viewing experience. Less people to contend with.
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:42 am to
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While those are nicer than the ones I found pics of, you still don't see difference? Carpet vs hardwood. Drop ceiling vs wood beams. More carpet and cheap tables vs cushion chairs and bistro tables. More drop ceiling tile vs chandliers, stones, brick, etc. tables for 4 vs tables for 2, 4, and 10. Endzone vs sideline. Almost all aspects of Kyle's are higher end finishes and in a better location (at least than the ones you just showed).


Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:47 am to
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Endzone vs sideline


We also have sideline club and suites. I chose to show you the new south stadium addition.

This is Stadium Club West:



...and as I noted above, it's scheduled renovation in time for next year. No plans have been released yet.

These are the suites on the east side addition:



Old photo of east side addition, pre-expansion:



Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 9:56 am to
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Less people to contend with.


Also less premium seating overall. As I already noted, Tiger Stadium has 136 suites to Kyle Field's 114. And LSU's suites are uniformly bigger than the average suite at Kyle Field. Only the Founder's suites are larger, by two seats apiece at 28. Tiger Stadium has a higher overall suite seat total as a result.

Tiger Stadium also has more club seats overall, 6.5K vs 5k for Kyle Field.

Now throw in the 22,000+ lower bowl sideline seats and field level seats, both chair backs, examples of which are here:




...and you get a stadium that has 34% of it's overall seating with premium chair backed seating. I'd bet it's hard to top Tiger Stadium for amount of dollars per seat the athletic department takes in. At a guess, I'd say Arkansas would be right up there as well.

Posted by tigerbait2010
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:01 am to
This is such a dumb argument.

Of course A&M's new clubs will be nicer than LSU's East and West side club seating. My God, the East side was built in 2001 bertman botched construction projects, so LSU didn't get the "bang for its buck" on the West side. Alleva is fixing that, but LSU has other facility projects lined up.

The project LSU just completed is first class, but I don't understand the argument of A&M's brand new suites compared to LSU's that are 14 years old. Times and standards change. LSU's football operations center in 2005 was spectacular, but now it's very average.


But continue on with TOG I suppose. It's just a petty pissing match
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:02 am to
Football - Kyle Field and its not even close



Basketball - not sure

Baseball - for fans, South Carolina. (For overall stadium, inside and out, Blue Bell Park, although I do like LSU and Arky. Can't wait to see what MSU and Bama do though.)
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:07 am to
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Football - Kyle Field and its not even close


Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:07 am to
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Also less premium seating overall. As I already noted, Tiger Stadium has 136 suites to Kyle Field's 114. And LSU's suites are uniformly bigger than the average suite at Kyle Field. Only the Founder's suites are larger, by two seats apiece at 28. Tiger Stadium has a higher overall suite seat total as a result


I never said otherwise. I was just pointing out the there is more to take into consideration. I think its pretty clear than A&M's nicer. That's all I was pointing out.

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and you get a stadium that has 34% of it's overall seating with premium chair backed seating.


Don't get me wrong. That is nice. But A&M intentionally leaves over 30,000 as bleachers specifically for students who stand. Now there are plenty of oppertunities to add in more chair backs at Kyle. (see lower south endzone, lower 2nd level endzone, part of the east side that isn't students) I expect it to happen in the future, but ultimately that's ~ 33% that will never be chairback. I also never expect the top of the stadium to be chairback to help keep cost down for the cheap seats. That's is likely another 20-30%.
Posted by Farmer1906
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:08 am to
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Of course A&M's new clubs will be nicer than LSU's East and West side club seating. My God, the East side was built in 2001 bertman botched construction projects, so LSU didn't get the "bang for its buck" on the West side. Alleva is fixing that, but LSU has other facility projects lined up. The project LSU just completed is first class, but I don't understand the argument of A&M's brand new suites compared to LSU's that are 14 years old. Times and standards change. LSU's football operations center in 2005 was spectacular, but now it's very average.


Exactly, its not the same. A&M's is clearly nicer. All I am saying is there is more than suites totals when discussing best facilities.
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