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re: BEFORE SPURRIER

Posted on 7/8/09 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 1:42 pm to
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If Spurrier never comes to UF, they are a UK like program.


Wasn't Spurrier highly interested in LSU back in the day?
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14488 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 1:45 pm to
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SEC title in 1984 and 1985, though these were to be stripped due to NCAA violations


Only their 1984 title was stripped. Technically, there is no SEC Champion for 1984. Tennessee won the SEC title in 1985, even though they lost to Florida, as Florida was ineligible to win the title in 1985. Same with 1990. Tennessee beat Florida 45-3, but lost to Alabama and tied Auburn. Tennessee was Florida's only SEC loss, so they would have won the title then but were yet again ineligible.
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11750 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:14 pm to
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If Spurrier never comes to UF, they are a UK like program.


Yeah, we left him hangin'. That is why he always wanted to beat the crap out of us.
Posted by Triple6Rebel
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2009
1584 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:14 pm to
I started this thread right before 'I went to sleep last night, and I can't believe how many posts it's received.

I mean seriously from what I picked up every program even Indiana and SMU for God's sakes had a period where they were serious National contenders, but before Spurrier I can't find anything prestigous about UF. I am not trying to flame. I just find it crazy that it took a program in the nations most talent rich state to not get started until the 1990's.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
31948 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:34 pm to
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I just find it crazy that it took a program in the nations most talent rich state to not get started until the 1990's.


real shocker....NONE of the Florida schools were good before the seventies and none won a national championship before 1983

Florida State first 10 win season in 1977 LINK
no National championships before 1993. LINK


Miami544-310-19 all time while never winning 10 or more until 1983 LINK
No championships before 1983
LINK


This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Triple6Rebel
Kansas City
Member since Feb 2009
1584 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 2:36 pm to
Thanks for the info.
Posted by tigerfighter
new orleans
Member since Jun 2008
193 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:18 pm to
It's very interesting how Bear said Fla was a sleeping giant or something like that then Spurrier came in and brought it to life. I've heard similar comments being made about SCar, they have the instate talent and recruiting base with GA near by as well, plenty of fan support and facilities. Just very bad teams or bad luck similar to Pre Spurrier Fla. I think the visor hopes to awaken the program out there like he did at FL.
Posted by Geaux9
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2009
5173 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:33 pm to
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Son, I suggest you go visit the Jack and Priscilla Andonie Museum someday...
Read my message a little further down the page.
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:48 pm to
uf never won an sec title before spurrier!
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 3:56 pm to
No; before Spurrier Florida hadn't done much of anything on the college football scene. If you go by historical accomplishments; they still rank #6 in the SEC even after all the success of Spurrier and onward.

Link to my Analysis on Historical Prestige
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 3:59 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:09 pm to
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Ross




this is sort of in-line with the Whitworth question you posed the other day. Why do so many Auburn fans seem to loathe and lament Doug Barfield ? I thought about this last night listening to one of his former asst's on Finebaum, Larry Bechtol (sp?). He did have a couple of good teams and that '79 one was strong. Shug's last year was horrible at 3-6-2.

Trust me,LSU and its coaches 'affinities' are legendary,so I'm not trying to be a wise guy. But in light of Whitworth's 4-24-2 vs Barfield's tenure,the contempt is similar.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:15 pm to
Never beating Alabama (which allowed them to continue their streak until it hit nine games), coaching during one of Alabama's most dominant stretches, and compiling a mere 27-27-1 record is what most of the hate stems from.

Us Auburn fans look over the fence quite a bit; and when Alabama is dominating and we are, for the most part; sucking, we tend to get a little testy.


He didn't have success; outside of one team that the AP Poll deemed worthy of a #16 ranking; but while he isn't deserving of any accolades; he certainly doesn't deserve to be crucified as he was.
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 4:18 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:17 pm to
I will say that 1979 Iron Bowl to this day is one of the finest games I've ever attended.That was a helluva Bama team,and Auburn gave them every thing they could handle.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:20 pm to
Outside of the 1972 Iron Bowl; the 70s were a decade to forget for the Auburn Tigers
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:21 pm to
1974 Auburn team is very under-rated and appreciated. Excellent team which should have gone to the Sugar over Florida,even though they lost to them.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:23 pm to
With a 10-2 record; finishing just outside the top 5 doesn't seem that underrated.

That season was tainted by not winning the SEC or beating Alabama; and because of that it was overshadowed by Alabama's run in the 70s and will be eternally forgotten.

ETA: It was awesome to dismantle Texas in the fashion that we did that year though.
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 4:24 pm
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

and will be eternally forgotten.


Not with me here.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:28 pm to
True
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:35 pm to
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ETA: It was awesome to dismantle Texas in the fashion that we did that year though.


1974 Gator is my next 'SEC flashback' that delights, er bores everyone.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 7/8/09 at 4:39 pm to
I-59; let me ask you another question. Going by how dominant a team was in their era of college football; do you believe the 1901 Michigan Wolverines were the best college football team of all time?

They finished 11-0 (4-0 in the Big Ten); won the first ever Rose Bowl 49-0 after Stanford quit in the third quarter; and didn't have a point scored on them all season.

They actually finished with a PF-PA of 555-0.
They scored 50.5 points a game and gave up no points all season. This was way before my time; but I still find that to be astonishingly dominant.

In their most dominant win; they beat Buffalo 189-0. In their closest game; they beat Ohio State (at Ohio State) 21-0.


To top it off; they repeated as national champions the very next year; going undefeated and untied yet again. Both of these seasons MIGHT be tarnished because forward passes weren't allowed...


ETA: History is fun.
This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 4:45 pm
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