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Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:10 pm to StopRobot
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:10 pm to StopRobot
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While addressing the University of Alabama at Birmingham's new fundraising campaign, Watts said this week the stadium proposal is "not a top strategic priority for us."
Watts replaced Carol Garrison -- who presented the proposal.
Not saying that disputes your link, it is just the view of a new administration.
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Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:21 pm to GIbson05
quote:Because UAs medical facilities are so amazing??
But the actual Med School officially needs to be part of UA and have off campus classes at UAB, not the other way around.
I wouldn't touch DCH with a 10 foot pole, except maybe the cancer center.
DCH is to UAB Hospital what UAB football is to Bama football...
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:23 pm to higgs_boson
to go on record, i would be fine with UAB playing Bama.
Instead of paying UAB what is needed to get out of the red each year, we could pay them the money to come to Tuscaloosa.
BUT I doubt UAB would agree to that. They need to get paid by the big programs(this year MSU and ARky), on top of getting their allowance from us, just to stay afloat.
They average 2 P5 programs a year. They get paid upwards of $1 million for each of these games. But they also get $ from Alabama, upwards of $1 million i am guessing.
So they get the benefit of playing three P5 schools with only two projected losses on the schedule.
yet we are the a-hole.
Instead of paying UAB what is needed to get out of the red each year, we could pay them the money to come to Tuscaloosa.
BUT I doubt UAB would agree to that. They need to get paid by the big programs(this year MSU and ARky), on top of getting their allowance from us, just to stay afloat.
They average 2 P5 programs a year. They get paid upwards of $1 million for each of these games. But they also get $ from Alabama, upwards of $1 million i am guessing.
So they get the benefit of playing three P5 schools with only two projected losses on the schedule.
yet we are the a-hole.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:36 pm to cjared036
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Instead of paying UAB what is needed to get out of the red each year, we could pay them the money to come to Tuscaloosa.
Would love to see this happen. You would see more UAB fans than what you get from West Carolina fanbase.
I disagree, however, in your assertion that UAB would not agree as UA would never agree to play UAB under any circumstances.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 1:59 pm to higgs_boson
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Watts replaced Carol Garrison -- who presented the proposal.
Not saying that disputes your link, it is just the view of a new administration.
Not to mention, why try to fight a battle that they won't even have the curtesy to listen to.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:05 pm to BamainCFL
UAB hospital really is top notch. Was burned in a fire in Shelby County, went to ER (Shelby County Hospital) and they wanted to remove two of my fingers. Got back in the car and went to Birmingham. The burn clinic did an amazing job and can barely see scars now.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:27 pm to jatebe
UAB hasn't and doesn't play Rice this year. You're sitting here showing a crowd of 20-30k in a stadium that holds 70k. Non power-5 football programs typically average 15-30k attendance. Not sure what your point is here?
You can't try to compare a non power 5 crowd to a SEC home crowd. It doesn't work like that for most of the country.
Facts are: UAB has a 24k average right now with a first year head coach at a mediocre 5-4 record in crappy Legion Field, while playing in a worse conference then they should be in solely BECAUSE the board of trustees refused to advance the program. UAB should be sitting in the American Conference right now in a solid football league and a GREAT basketball league making a lot more TV money. The AAC picked freaking TULANE because they actually made some kind of investment in their athletic programs.
You can't try to compare a non power 5 crowd to a SEC home crowd. It doesn't work like that for most of the country.
Facts are: UAB has a 24k average right now with a first year head coach at a mediocre 5-4 record in crappy Legion Field, while playing in a worse conference then they should be in solely BECAUSE the board of trustees refused to advance the program. UAB should be sitting in the American Conference right now in a solid football league and a GREAT basketball league making a lot more TV money. The AAC picked freaking TULANE because they actually made some kind of investment in their athletic programs.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:31 pm to BamaDude06
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Serious question: Has anyone ever gotten Jimbo to publicly say he would have taken the job? I have a hard time believing he would have stuck with UAB over the offer he later got to be Bowden's OC/HCIW considering his long history with the Bowden family.
There are multiple interviews of Jimbo Fisher saying the board killed the hiring of him.
This is much bigger than football. This is an attack on UAB's undergrad programs as well. I know it's difficult to think that the board that runs your programs could be malicious to another, but it is a fact and has been for over a decade now.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:31 pm to undecided
I mean really.. who gives a sh....
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:33 pm to cjared036
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2012 our football profits outpaced revenue by $45 million or so.
and if you will look into your revenue stream you will see 5.5million from the school
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:36 pm to taylormade
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I mean really.. who gives a sh....
A lot of people should care. It's rampant corruption and crazy Alabama politics. If there was an attack to destroy the Alabama football program you might care. The whole "financial" garbage is just a guise that is being used.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:36 pm to StopRobot
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Most athletic programs receive a school subsidy to cover Title IX sports. The athletic department at Alabama and other profitable schools usually kick back a large part of that to the school if they make a profit. I think Tennessee kicks back all profit.
Alabam received 5.5million and paid back 4.4million, which means the whole AD owes the school 1.1million.
LSU receives 0 dollars
Posted on 11/6/14 at 2:58 pm to taylormade
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I mean really.. who gives a sh....
I do.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:33 pm to undecided
Adds credibility to the rumor?
Another link from Al.com
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Another link from Al.com
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UA trustee Paul Bryant Jr., who's viewed by many UAB football supporters as an enemy, turns 70 in December, and the UA Board of Trustees manual states: "Each elected Trustee shall retire from the Board at the annual meeting following that Trustee's seventieth birthday."
When is that retirement meeting for Bryant? In February in Birmingham. When is the strategic plan for UAB athletics scheduled to be completed? In December or January. Would Bryant consider it a going-away present to have Watts pull the plug on UAB football in the name of fiscal responsibility?
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:47 pm to higgs_boson
He could have ended the rumors by saying the study is not being conducted to determine the viability of eliminating the UAB football. Rather he phrases it as all possible outcomes will be considered essentially leaving the door wide open for the elimination of the program.
That's such a shitty thing to do to the players who are having their most successful season since enrolling at UAB. For all the finger pointing at Alabama, UAB's administration bears just as much responsibility for rolling over and playing dead for so long.
That's such a shitty thing to do to the players who are having their most successful season since enrolling at UAB. For all the finger pointing at Alabama, UAB's administration bears just as much responsibility for rolling over and playing dead for so long.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:20 pm to undecided
A lot of UAB cry over a bunch of conjecture.
I'd love to see the UAB football program succeed, and I'd love to see a nice stadium for them on their campus. But you can't put the cart before the horse. Building a nice new stadium will get butts in seats for the first season or two, but what happens when the novelty wears off? Even the big time programs are struggling to keep butts in seats, so what makes people think UAB will be able to do it? Sure they have a great coach and are playing well this season, but good seasons are the exception not the rule for UAB football.
Maybe it's true the BOT is preventing them from progressing, but UAB fans sound like a bunch of whiney bitches over it.
I'd love to see the UAB football program succeed, and I'd love to see a nice stadium for them on their campus. But you can't put the cart before the horse. Building a nice new stadium will get butts in seats for the first season or two, but what happens when the novelty wears off? Even the big time programs are struggling to keep butts in seats, so what makes people think UAB will be able to do it? Sure they have a great coach and are playing well this season, but good seasons are the exception not the rule for UAB football.
Maybe it's true the BOT is preventing them from progressing, but UAB fans sound like a bunch of whiney bitches over it.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:30 pm to undecided
Indeed. Ray Watts is scum. And for all my fellow UAB grads helping to tow the Tuscaloosa party line, you don't think this is going to stop at football, do you? I'd think you would want your degree to be worth the paper it's printed on. Just a thought.
I am a UAB grad, but I grew up an Alabama fan. My uncle played there under Bill Curry, and is good friends with Mike Shula. My reaction to last year's IB was similar to that Ole Miss girl's reaction after the LSU game, only I was sober and I cried less. I'm bringing this up because you motherfrickers are making me agree with Auburn and LSU fans. Do you think I want to do that? Really?
The facts are, we're winning more games, attendance is up, buzz around the program is up, and a miserable twat who's done nothing in life but have his daddy's name has his jimmies rustled over it. frick this "there should only be one program" shite. You got yours, us having ours doesn't make any difference to your bottom line. Regurgitating al.com worthy talking points just makes you look like what Aubie and LSU says Alabama fans are. You're on the wrong side here, fellas. But, you'll probably get your way. The BOT does what they want and answers to no one, so I expect the worst. But we had our moments. 1st Round NFL Draft picks. A bowl game. Curbstomping TCU on national television. And Watson Brown, literally the worst coach in Division 1 football history, is 1-0 vs. Nick Saban. In The Swamp.
I am a UAB grad, but I grew up an Alabama fan. My uncle played there under Bill Curry, and is good friends with Mike Shula. My reaction to last year's IB was similar to that Ole Miss girl's reaction after the LSU game, only I was sober and I cried less. I'm bringing this up because you motherfrickers are making me agree with Auburn and LSU fans. Do you think I want to do that? Really?
The facts are, we're winning more games, attendance is up, buzz around the program is up, and a miserable twat who's done nothing in life but have his daddy's name has his jimmies rustled over it. frick this "there should only be one program" shite. You got yours, us having ours doesn't make any difference to your bottom line. Regurgitating al.com worthy talking points just makes you look like what Aubie and LSU says Alabama fans are. You're on the wrong side here, fellas. But, you'll probably get your way. The BOT does what they want and answers to no one, so I expect the worst. But we had our moments. 1st Round NFL Draft picks. A bowl game. Curbstomping TCU on national television. And Watson Brown, literally the worst coach in Division 1 football history, is 1-0 vs. Nick Saban. In The Swamp.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:34 pm to AUnite
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AUnite
sorry.. how are you AUnite?Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:40 pm to taylormade
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Instead of paying UAB what is needed to get out of the red each year, we could pay them the money to come to Tuscaloosa.
Not going to ever happen because it doesn't help Alabama. Alabama would rather pay Western Carolina and get their name on the local news, sports radio, newspapers in Greenville and Asheville for a week.
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