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re: Auburn sweeps UGA in Basketball
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:58 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:58 pm to DawgsLife
quote:received a thousand in impermissible benefits, paid restitution.
Would you mind showing me how AJ Green's situation is even remotely similar?
Received over a thousand in impermissible benefits, paid restitution.
The biggest difference was that the AU players were led into breaking the rules by listening to adults who were supposed to have their best interest in mind, where AJ Green intentionally broke the rules on his own and for his own benefit.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:02 pm to PearlJam
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received a thousand in impermissible benefits, paid restitution.
From someone that was a fan for his jersey, not from an agent.(AJ Green)
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Received over a thousand in impermissible benefits, paid restitution.
$9,000 per family by someone they knew to be an agent, facilitated by a coach from their program.
quote:You mean their parents? And the kids decided ultimately knowing the guy was an agent, and did it anyway.
The biggest difference was that the AU players were led into breaking the rules by listening to adults who were supposed to have their best interest in mind,
quote:By selling his jersey to a fan. You keep calling him an agent, yet they found that he was, indeed, not an agent. he never represented anyone. Ever.
where AJ Green intentionally broke the rules on his own and for his own benefit.
I like how you put in there that AJ green did it for his own benefit. Whose benefit did the Auburn players do it for?
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:38 pm to DawgsLife
quote:wasn't an agent
someone they knew to be an agent,
quote:and coach
You mean their parents?
quote:wrong
knowing the guy was an agent
quote:Based on info from the FBI, only 1 of the AU players knew about the scheme and the parents, not the players were paid. Just greedy adults pimping kids and the kids receive an inequitable share of the punishment.
Whose benefit did the Auburn players do it for?
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Georgia star receiver A.J. Green was suspended by the NCAA for four games on Wednesday for selling a bowl jersey for $1,000 to someone who qualifies as an agent.
Only thing I have claimed.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:51 pm to PearlJam
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Georgia star receiver A.J. Green was suspended by the NCAA for four games on Wednesday for selling a bowl jersey for $1,000 to someone who qualifies as an agent.
He wasn't an agent dumbass.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:53 pm to PearlJam
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someone they knew to be an agent,
quote:Ok. Let's pick it apart. They took it from Chuck Person who got it from the agent. Now, are you going to say they had no idea where the money came from? If I give a buddy of mine $9,000 to give to you, and you know I sent the money and you took it, then you took the money from me. To insinuate anything else is being dishonest. obviously your own University understood this. It's a shame you don't.
wasn't an agent
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You mean their parents?
and coach
Yes?
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knowing the guy was an agent
wrong
Right. When person gave them the money they admitted that they agreed to use the guy as a "financial advisor" (read:Agent) once the left for the NBA. It's in the link I provided earlier.
quote:Got a link? I'd be interested in what it says totally.
Based on info from the FBI, only 1 of the AU players knew about the scheme and the parents, not the players were paid. Just greedy adults pimping kids and the kids receive an inequitable share of the punishment.
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Georgia star receiver A.J. Green was suspended by the NCAA for four games on Wednesday for selling a bowl jersey for $1,000 to someone who qualifies as an agent.
Qualifies. You know what it takes to be an agent? education? nada. parents of players represent them as agents. can the kids take money from them. Thing is, after the NCAA investigated the guy never represented anyone. I would be curious if the guy the kids took money from has ever represented anyone.
Again. The two situations are only alike in Auburn fans trying to make excuses and deflect.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:53 pm to dawg4lyfe
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Bama fans and Auburn fans sucking each other off again.
It is strange isn't it. Could you imagine Georgia and Tech fans sucking each other off?
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:55 pm to DawgsLife
And while we are on it. AJ green was also accused of going to a party on a yacht thrown by an agent. Problem was, they proved later he was never there.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 1:57 pm to DawgsLife
That was Julio.. down in the schoolyard. Everyone knows AJ has a fear for water.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 2:05 pm to DawgsLife
quote:no. Their parents too money from Chuck Person who got it from a financial advisor (not agent).
Ok. Let's pick it apart. They took it from Chuck Person who got it from the agent.
quote:One of them was aware (Purifoy). There is no information reported as to the knowledge of the other player (Wiley).
Now, are you going to say they had no idea where the money came from?
quote:Why "read: agent" when it reads financial advisor. Do you not know the difference?
When person gave them the money they admitted that they agreed to use the guy as a "financial advisor" (read:Agent) once the left for the NBA. It's in the link I provided earlier.
quote:Should be easy to find with a simple search.
Got a link? I'd be interested in what it says totally.
quote:No. They are alike in that the athletes received impermissible benefits, repaid the benefits, and sought reinstatement of eligibility. The primary difference is that the AU athletes were used as pawns by greedy adults that should have protected them and Green acted on his own.
Again. The two situations are only alike in Auburn fans trying to make excuses and deflect.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:01 pm to PearlJam
It's odd uga fans are refusing to admit the guilt of something that old, while reporting detailed facts on a current Auburn case. Go rewatch the okie game or the SECCG. Lawd.
AJ took money from someone who qualified as an agent...he lost 1/4 of his season. Known value is 1k. I can vouch it was more but then I'd give away my identity.
Austin and Daniel's family took money from a coach paid to them by a financial advisor (FBI UC). Daniel knew...there is no proof Austin knew. Austin's punishment is losing 1 year of eligibility. The amount his family actually received is disputed but you can assume its 7500k or less. Seems like a reasonable punishment.
AJ took money from someone who qualified as an agent...he lost 1/4 of his season. Known value is 1k. I can vouch it was more but then I'd give away my identity.
Austin and Daniel's family took money from a coach paid to them by a financial advisor (FBI UC). Daniel knew...there is no proof Austin knew. Austin's punishment is losing 1 year of eligibility. The amount his family actually received is disputed but you can assume its 7500k or less. Seems like a reasonable punishment.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:11 pm to PearlJam
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financial advisor
You do know that is what they call agents, now, right?
And they knew exactly the origin of the money, hence the cloak and dagger stuff. They absolutely knew what they were doing was against NCAA rules.
quote:Possible, bu improbable. If my parents took $9,000 from an agent, I have a feeling they would tell me and they would know where they got it from. Surely you don't think they thought it was legal to take $9,000. They would have to be the absolute most gullible people on the face of the earth, if they thought a stranger was going to give them $9,000 because they were great people. Even taking it from Person....they would know that was not legal. I mean, can you think of a single person that thinks it is ok for a coach to give players money?
One of them was aware (Purifoy). There is no information reported as to the knowledge of the other player (Wiley)
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Why "read: agent" when it reads financial advisor. Do you not know the difference?
Yes, I do. And today in sports it means the same thing.
A Financial advisor to me and you takes money from us and invests it. A Financial Advisor to an athlete negotiates contracts, invests money and goes after other money making opportunities for said athlete. Now, which part of that does not sound like Agent? I mean, Auburn recognized what it was. Person recognized what it was, and the kids recognized what it was or it wouldn't be an issue right now.
quote:So give it to me. I gave you links to what i was saying. Quid pro quo.
Should be easy to find with a simple search.
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The primary difference is that the AU athletes were used as pawns by greedy adults that should have protected them and Green acted on his own.
Yeah. Ok. We'll just go with that, then. The Auburn athletes thought it was ok to take money for nothing, while AJ Green selling his jersey to a person who was not an agent was wicked and wrong.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:13 pm to DawgsLife
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AJ Green selling his jersey
Yea, that's what he thought he was doing.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:18 pm to Tigerman97
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Yea, that's what he thought he was doing.
Well, they proved the guy was not an agent. I mean he had never prepresented anyone and, as far as I know, he still has not represented anyone.
However, you guys are claiming your guys thought it was ok to take money from an Auburn coach, sooooooo.....
ETA
I am curious about one thing, though. What exactly do Auburn fans think an Agent does, anyway, if not handle the athletes money, and negotiate on his behalf?
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 3:52 pm to DawgsLife
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What exactly do Auburn fans think an Agent does, anyway, if not handle the athletes money, and negotiate on his behalf?
I'm not an expert, but an Agent cuts the deal that makes the money and a Financial Advisor invest and manages the money.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:01 pm to DawgsLife
quote:no, it isn't. The guy they were dealing with was a financial advisor and not an agent. The agreement was for him to invest their money. Not to represent them in negotiations. Sorry you don't know the difference.
You do know that is what they call agents, now, right?
quote:While some agencies also act as financial advisors, they are not the same thing.
And today in sports it means the same thing
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:03 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Nope. Just saying that the rule violation committed by the AU players has happened a bunch, occasionally by UGA players. The punishment in this case was more severe than typical. Probably because of the perception issue based on the media reports and the NCAA not wanting to appear feckless.
However, you guys are claiming your guys thought it was ok to take money from an Auburn coach,
Posted on 2/11/18 at 7:54 pm to PearlJam
Another difference between AJ Green and these guys is that he is relevant in pro sports while these Auburn guys will disappear into irrelevancy...
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