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re: Auburn May Add National Championships

Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:27 pm to
I have to ask again, if you have done no research into the topic, you obviously have no interest in it. Why do you insist on chiming in with an uneducated opinion?
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:30 pm to
Hey look 83 Auburn was great team. Just not a National Champion.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:30 pm to
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Hey look 83 Auburn was great team. Just not a National Champion.


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northalabamacracker


Ok
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:31 pm to
We're saying they should have been national champions, by any metric. There is literally nothing that Miami or Nebraska had over that team except they played in an epic game against each other.

The polls got it wrong.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

We're saying they should have been national champions, 



Actually TiM said they were National Champions. He is the Auburn version of a Bammer.

Why do you think that many media and coaches had such a different view?
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
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Posted on 2/1/14 at 4:59 pm to
Why are you so worried?
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:00 pm to
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We could use teams played with a winning record


Teams with a winning record this year:
-Maryland
-BC
-Houston
-Old Dominion
-Arkansas St
-UNLV
and many more

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Or bowl opponents.


Bowl teams this year:
-BC
-MSU
-UNLV
-Navy
-Middle TN
-Rutgers
etc.......

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Or opponent winning percentage.


See first example

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Or whatever you want.

AP and UPI

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AU wins the argument every time in every way in 1983


Not according to 100's of voters that didn't vote AU that year and the countless CFB fans that agreed with the polls that year. Hell, AU wasn't even voted #2 in either Poll
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:00 pm to
Nebraska had a reputation of being invincible and Miami beat them in an epic game while Auburn won the Sugar bowl in a 9-7 game.

Humans are very emotional beings and after such an epic game they disregarded resumes in favor of reputation and emotion.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Not according to 100's of voters that didn't vote AU that year and the countless CFB fans that agreed with the polls that year. Hell, AU wasn't even voted #2 in either Poll


That's why we call it an epic hose job.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:03 pm to
I fail to see your point about teams with a winning record in 2013 in a discussion about 1983, but whatever. You appeared to spend a lot of time looking for bad teams with a winning record in 2013 so I did not want you to feel it was ignored or useless.

Even though it was.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
Member since Jun 2010
8972 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:08 pm to
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You appeared to spend a lot of time looking for bad teams with a winning record in 2013 so I did not want you to feel it was ignored or useless.


Was off the top of my head, so yes, it took a few seconds. Wasn't even sure if was 100% correct.

quote:

I fail to see your point about teams with a winning record in 2013 in a discussion about 1983, but whatever.


Figured you were astute enough to follow. I'll pass on explaining the reasoning and just stick with AP and UPI ranking AU #3, I know you can understand that.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:10 pm to
You can look with your eyes, see the quality of teams yourself from the schedules, and remove any bias statistics can provide you.

That schedule was easily the toughest in the nation that year and was one of the toughest ever played.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:10 pm to
Just saw this. How I feel about it =

We should not need to claim bogus titles - I'm perfectly fine with how things are right now.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38804 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:11 pm to
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The team you'd rather be the national champion got their arse handed to them by Florida, who Auburn beat.


You guys are beating around the bush. The team with the best resume didn't get voted #1 by a poll put together by media members who got it wrong. Any computer model will have the 1983 Auburn schedule as one of the toughest schedules ever played, and anyone can see both Miami and Nebraska played fairly lackluster schedules.

Who was Nebraska's marquee win? Seriously. Penn State?


frick, UGA has a better resume at 10-1-1 that year than fricking Miami had.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31080 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:25 pm to
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You can look with your eyes, see the quality of teams yourself from the schedules, and remove any bias statistics can provide you. That schedule was easily the toughest in the nation that year and was one of the toughest ever played.
Did Auburn score a TD against Michigan in the Sugar Bowl? Be careful. I was at the game and saw the winning FG kicked with 20 seconds. Should a team be voted national champions when they can't even score a touchdown in their bowl game?...So many questions.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:27 pm to
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frick, UGA has a better resume at 10-1-1 that year than fricking Miami had.


What is funny is the gumps are not educated enough to make the best arguments against 1983 AU as NC. I educated one a few years ago and the a-hole actually remembers and uses it against me now.

AU still wins the argument, but it is a much better one. Trying to argue Miami or Nebraska over AU in 1983 is just a lost cause from the start. The sportsnation article I linked has Miami at #4 which is about right, although I could make a strong case for Miami at #5 instead.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:34 pm to
That Michigan team was good and had the best rushing D in the country, giving up 85 yards per game. AU dominated the game as well, rushing for over 300 yards and 21 first downs while holding Michigan to 118 and 12. AU also dominated TOP and only punted 4 times to Michigan's 8.

The only reason Michigan kept it close was because AU fumbled 4 times.
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:40 pm to
Not gonna win a Natty by fumbling four times and needing a fg with 20 seconds left to win against a team that didn't even win its conference after getting beat down in your own stadium in the biggest nonconference game in your schools history. Auburn couldn't even finish second after that.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31080 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:43 pm to
...but should a team that is held to ZERO touchdowns in their bowl game be voted national champions?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 2/1/14 at 5:48 pm to
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Auburn turned into a quiet, unemotional, efficient and excellent football team, slugging it out with the heavyweights of college football. Seven Auburn opponents were ranked in the Top 20 at the time of their game and only one, second-ranked Texas, would defeat the Tigers.

One of the Tigers few displays of emotion came immediately after the victory over Georgia, the win that represented the SEC championship. Players screamed and chanted, "SUGAR BOWL, SUGAR BOWL, SUGAR BOWL!''

Dye's third Auburn team lived up to every expectation that season. It was an unusual - and special - football team. It wasn't a team made of brick and mortar. It was a team made of heart and soul.


Got to love that 1983 team. AU had not won the SEC since 1957 and had just ended bama's 9 year streak under Bryant.

Not to mention the death of a player, Greg Pratt at practice right before the season started.

That team stared down an epic schedule that is widely recognized as one of the toughest in college football history and ran the wishbone right at and right through it all year.

1983 Auburn Tigers

My favorite team of all time.
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