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Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:56 pm to IAmReality
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They're both first ballot hall of famers, but come on, outside of South Carolina homers nobody on the planet thinks that.
I'm sure there are probably a couple UF homers that would hope on board.
I mean Saban hasn't ever won consecutive SEC titles.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:58 pm to RB10
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Do you mean just in the SEC or throughout college football?
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Haven't you heard about all the records LSU is setting for underclassmen declaring?
Who in the country has produced more pro talent than LSU or Bama?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 9:58 pm to Ross
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You have to take into account attrition in those rankings.
Rolling averages which is a rather good way of predicting outcome (better than most measures) doesn't take attrition into account. The reason is simple: all school's suffer it at about the same statistical level, especially when you're average 4-5 classes together.
The only case for attrition that might be made would be for Tennessee's current roster rank which is probably too high (5th/6th in the SEC this year depending on how you want to number it due to the tie between AUB and UGA) since it's a large enough statistical anomaly to where it matters (CBJ has been here longer than 50% of our roster and his 2nd season hasn't even started - that is how awful Kiffin + Dooley were in terms).
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:00 pm to thirdlawson
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Who in the country has produced more pro talent than LSU or Bama?
I was agreeing with you. I'm pretty sure LSU has the most players on NFL rosters right now.
ETA: It may be 2nd most.
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:01 pm to Gradual_Stroke
I'm a fan of Les. No way is he 2. Not by resume, and not in the talent:game day blunder ratio. My one cent.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:02 pm to adammwilson
PLayers on LSU's roster with Bama offers from Bama:
since 2010:
LB Kwon Alexander
since 2010:
LB Kwon Alexander
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:03 pm to Prof
Nah man, I don't think you can safely say everyone suffers at the same statistical level, even if you are talking the last four years.
Auburn's classes were definitely overrated under Chizik.
Auburn's classes were definitely overrated under Chizik.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:11 pm to RB10
Of SEC schools these have the most in the NFL:
LSU
Georgia
Tennessee
LSU
Georgia
Tennessee
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:19 pm to thirdlawson
It's ridiculous they have Richt ahead of Miles. What the hell has he done to warrant a higher ranking? 
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:20 pm to thirdlawson
They were ranking Chizick that high a few years ago and this high school coach is a carbon copy.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:20 pm to JuiceTerry
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Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:21 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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They were ranking Chizick that high a few years ago and this high school coach is a carbon copy.
Both beat your Lord and Savior, Saban Christ
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:26 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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this high school coach is a carbon copy.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:28 pm to Ross
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Nah man, I don't think you can safely say everyone suffers at the same statistical level, even if you are talking the last four years.
Auburn's classes were definitely overrated under Chizik.
There are always exceptions but for the most part it's about the same at SEC schools. The stats guys don't count it for that reason - it usually isn't a big enough difference statistically to mater although there are some cases, still they don't factor in.
Of course classes can be overrated but that's also why they average and look at multiple classes rather than just one or two. You really need at least 4 to get a decent gauge of talent for any given year. This is why Pinkel is considered such a good coach - he does far more with wayyyyy less than the rest of the SEC.
I'm telling you though Chizik was that awful. So was Dooley (his classes weren't great but they weren't bad either). Beating Bama as well as beating a statistically similar UGA that had a far more seasoned QB and didn't have to adjust to a new system is more than enough to say Gus is a good coach though. It doesn't make Auburn's season any less remarkable but the talent was there. It just wasn't being utilized - Gus used it and found a way to use it in his first season. That's pretty damned good.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:30 pm to graychef
Programs are damn close. Difference is coaching. That's the point. Les had every opportunity to win those games. One, his team didn't show up for.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:35 pm to Prof
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This is why Pinkel is considered such a good coach - he does far more with wayyyyy less than the rest of the SEC.
Before this past season, he was on the hot seat and many Missouri fans wanted him fired. Had he won fewer than 9 games this past season he WOULD have been fired
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:45 pm to RollTide1987
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Before this past season, he was on the hot seat and many Missouri fans wanted him fired. Had he won fewer than 9 games this past season he WOULD have been fired
No doubt but even beyond this season, his record combined with Mizzou's pretty damned low recruiting level adds up to an outstanding coach.
Their roster is ranked 37th this year overall.
Five year recruiting rankings:
Missouri 39 (2014) - 43 (2013) - 31 (2012) - 57 (2011) - 21 (2010)
Only program that has less in talent/worse at recruiting is Vandy which is ranked 47 in roster this year.
This post was edited on 4/1/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 4/1/14 at 10:45 pm to lsusportsman2
Ok I'll play along
Only thing Miles on Richt is a crystal that he backed into. A crystal that if Richt had gotten the Bama treatment would have been his
Only thing Miles on Richt is a crystal that he backed into. A crystal that if Richt had gotten the Bama treatment would have been his
Posted on 4/1/14 at 11:07 pm to beaver
And Chiz should have been #1 after 2010, right? Gonna wait at least three years to state where Gus falls in the pecking order.
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