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As far as the Heisman goes.....

Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Bumpndnite
Hoover
Member since Feb 2012
132 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:08 pm
(a) Why don't they wait until after the championship game to vote?, (b) If they're going to vote this week, what will they know Sunday, that they don't know now?

Tua, Kyler Murray, and Dwayne Haskins are all worthy candidates, but the competition they're playing this week is hardly even; not remotely so. Texas is ranked 68th in total defense....a couple of yards per game better than Minnesota, and UTEP. OSU is playing a team ranked a very pedestrian 51st in total defense. Tua will go up against the 14th ranked defense in the country. So regardless of the outcome of this week's games, what does it really tell you?
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 4:12 pm
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:13 pm to
Yeah and Tua is surrounded by the best players in the country.
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2679 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:17 pm to
Kyler Murray is the best player in the country
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:18 pm to
Kyler Murray is the best baseball player in College Football this year
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18001 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:19 pm to
I don’t give one eff about the Heisman since they screwed Payton Manning.

And I’m not a Payton Manning fan.


It has turned into a meaningless trophy.
Kinda like the Nobel Peace Prize
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4304 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:20 pm to
Justin Fields is the best quarterback on Georgia's roster.. but we all know why he's not playing
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:23 pm to
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Justin Fields is the best quarterback on Georgia's roster.. but we all know why he's not playing


Why?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:25 pm to
if they waited, there would be far less drama, pageantry, and thus less interest. Less interest means fewer eyes on tv and articles. Fewer eyes means less revenue. Would you voluntarily take less revenue?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Payton Manning.



who the frick is that?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:35 pm to
quote:


(a) Why don't they wait until after the championship game to vote?, (b) If they're going to vote this week, what will they know Sunday, that they don't know now?


I think I'm correct -- and somebody who knows better please correct me if I'm not -- in saying that the Heisman has always been presented around the first week and a half of December, and before the internet, ballots had to be mailed in. Conference championship games have only been a thing since 1992, so the real reason for all of this is that the Heisman organization (Trophy Trust nowadays, I believe) has never adjusted to this new season format. So even with internet balloting, it's still cutting it too close to accurately assess performance in championship games. They probably think that point B is basically the issue. What are they going to learn in one more game?
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 4:37 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

I don’t give one eff about the Heisman since they screwed Payton Manning.


I don't give one eff about the Heisman since they screwed Ed Marinaro.

Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Justin Fields is the best quarterback on Georgia's roster.. but we all know why he's not playing
What’s that supposed to mean?
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18001 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:43 pm to
And Gary Beban won the Heisman
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:48 pm to
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And Gary Beban won the Heisman


Not that year.

Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18001 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:23 pm to
Auburn played Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl?

With Pat Sullivan
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18001 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:26 pm to
Yes

Ole Miss played Arkansas with Archie Manning.

I get those games confused
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:34 pm to
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Yeah and Tua is surrounded by the best players in the country.


tOSU has a higher composite talent ranking for all players on the current roster than Bama.

Murray is a tremendous athlete playing in a system designed to favor explosive, fast paced offense.

Bama has had elite skill position talent since 2009. No one in Bama history has performed as he has and maximized the production potential of everyone around him. His abilities have contributed to school, SEC, and NCAA records being set on the offensive side of a Saban coached team.

All are deserving, but dont minimize a historic performance by Tua.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24861 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

if they waited, there would be far less drama, pageantry, and thus less interest. Less interest means fewer eyes on tv and articles. Fewer eyes means less revenue. Would you voluntarily take less revenue?


Yep. People barely even notice the baseball awards given out weeks after the World Series. Never understood why they wait so long.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Auburn played Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl?

With Pat Sullivan


Correct.

#1 Nebraska played #2 Oklahoma
#3 Alabama played #4 Auburn

The two winners played in the Orange Bowl. The two losers played in the Sugar Bowl. Neither Alabama nor Auburn were on the same level as either Oklahoma or Nebraska.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23882 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:32 pm to
Kyler is playing in an offense designed put up huge numbers in a conference hardly known for defense.

In a single season, Tua has completely transformed the offense of a dynasty to an unimaginable level of efficiency and productivity.
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