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Article about the gumps trying to get Auburn on probation

Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:28 pm
Posted by CC Tiger1
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:28 pm
Here is an interesting article about the gumps trying to get Auburn on probation back in the 1950's. Bammers like North Alabama turd fan cry about Auburn fans spreading rumors about their school cheating, but the gumps were actually hiring private detectives to get Auburn on probation as far back as the 1950's






St. Petersburg Times

Wednesday, April 23, 1958



Angry Auburn Hits NCAA Conviction

Blames Sister School ‘bama For Latest Ban



By Donald F. Martin (United Press Sports Writer)



Auburn, Ala. ? Auburn charged yesterday the NCAA “convicted” it of giving illegal aid to a quarterback although the Southeastern Conference exonerated the school and three alleged witnesses refuted their evidence.

In a bitter letting down of their hair, two top officials of the nation’s major undefeated football power of 1957 also said rival Alabama initiated a new action against Auburn . It resulted in a second NCAA probation that will run to a record six-year bowl banishment for the proud Plainsmen.

And more trouble could still be in store for Auburn . SEC Commissioner Bernie Moore said the Conference Executive Committee would consider Auburn ’s status “in light of evidence presented in New Orleans .” This evidence has not been made public by the NCAA itself. Moore said in a meeting of the committee would be called as soon as it can be arranged to hear the evidence and “we’ll go from there.” Auburn also urged an early meeting of the committee to present its side.

Quarterback Speaks

The central figure of the case, 19-year old sophomore quarterback for 1958, Don Fuell, said other schools had offered him several thousand dollars but Auburn offered him only “a college education if I passed my grades, didn’t get into any trouble and tried real hard.”

Auburn President Ralph Draughon and Athletic Director Jeff beard talked with reporters and “let the ball bounce” by releasing reams of documents on the controversial case of Don Fuell, who will be a sophomore quarterback next fall. Auburn head Coach Ralph (Shug) Jordan was not present.

The statements and documents purported to show:

1.) That then Alabama head Coach J.B. (Ears) Whitworth asked SEC Commissioner Bernie Moore to investigate Auburn ’s recruiting of Fuell in December, 1956.

2.) That Moore in a letter to the NCAA gave Auburn a clean bill and accused a former Alabama assistant and an alumnus of Oklahoma A&M ? where Whitworth was former coach ? of making unsubstantiated charges against Auburn with “ulterior” motives.

3.) That the two men named by Moore, plus a third alleged “informant” ? Fuell’s father-in-law, advised the NCAA just before this week’s disciplinarian meeting in New Orleans that they were misquoted and misconstrued and wanted no part in the case.

4.) That Fuell, a widely sought prospect from Guntersville , Ala , was interviewed by a mysterious private detective who asked him how much “under the table” money it would take to induce him to switch to another school.

5.) That the same detective, masquerading as a salesman, gained entrance to Fuell’s apartment to investigate his standard of living.

6.) That the NCAA accused Auburn of giving Fuell a contract that called for providing him with an air conditioner for his home, a $1,700 motorboat and a new car or $2,200 cash his sophomore year.

7.) That Fuell has an air conditioner and did have a motorboat but that the financing was arranged by his father. The motorboat was sold at a loss because Fuell was unable to keep up the payments out of his savings from a summer job and an allowance from his father. An operation made necessary on his son by a malformation at birth was a financial factor, the documents showed.

“We are deeply hurt and deeply concerned by the action fo the National Collegiate Athletic Association,” said President Draughon. It is inconceivable that the NCAA convicted us on the evidence we presented. If there is any other evidence neither Beard nor I know about it.”

Beard said that Auburn does not plan an appeal. “An appeal must be accompanied by additional evidence and we do not see that any more is needed or that we possibly could get any more.” Beard added.

Deny Involvement

Other Southern colleges drawn into the boiling controversy quickly denied any involvement.

Dr. Frank A. Rose, president of the University of Alabama , “deplores the fact that its name has been dragged into the present controversy with the athletics of Alabama Polytechnic Institute ( Auburn ’s formal name).” “The University has taken no initiative in the investigation of this case.”

Beard presented a letter from SEC Commissioner Moore to the NCAA saying that Howard (Moose) Johnson, ex-Alabama assistant, and C.V. Richardson, alumnus of Oklahoma A&M touched off the case by alleging that Auburn gave Fuell a luxury contract.

There was “not enough evidence to substantiate the allegations against the boy or Auburn .” Moore wrote. “I am definitely of the opinion that Richardson and Johnson’s actions stem from ulterior motives and not from their interest in the good of intercollegiate athletics. Both men are guilty of violating rules and ethics by offering visits and bribes.”

Moore in Birmingham acknowledged he wrote the letter.

The gumshoeing with counter spy overtones was allegedly done by Dayton C. Hahs of Memphis , a detective hired through the Pinkerton agency. Fuell said in a statement issued through Auburn that Hahs visited him at Guntersville lat summer and asked him what he would need to switch to another school. Auburn officials said they identified Hahs by hiring detectives of their own who took a statement from him at the Memphis police station. In this statement Hahs was said to have admitted he offered Fuell $350 a month to switch schools.

Then, the detective was quoted, he went back to Memphis to report on the Pinkertons and later went to Tuscaloosa , site of the Univeristy, to report to then Alabama Assistant Coach James (Bubber) Nisbet. Still later, the statement said, Hahs went to Auburn to take pictures in Fuell’s apartment.

“No Comment”

In Memphis , Hahs said he had been hired as an investigator in the Auburn case but “I have no comment to make on my past job.” He added he just “happened” to be in the Memphis Police Station when he was reached to give a statement.

Nisbet, former Alabama backfield star who works for the University Extension Service but is no longer in the Athletic Department, said he didn’t know Hahs. He denied that Alabama had ever contacted a detective agency.

Beard said “I cannot and will not offer an opinion as to whether Alabama hired the detective. But he said Fuell received threatening phone calls before he enrolled at Auburn and for that reason was advised to come to the campus early last fall.

The third person said to have seen the air conditioner ? motor boat ? auto contract was identified by Auburn as Carl H (Cotton) Lay, Fuell’s father-in-law. Presented was a sworn, notarized statement by Lay saying he had been the victim of “rumors” connecting him with the case.

According to Auburn , the NCAA’s charges which were not detailed at this week’s New Orleans meeting alleged Richardson and Johnson said they saw the contract on July 27. 1957.



This post was edited on 7/8/09 at 11:34 am
Posted by Tigerbait337
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:30 pm to
26 Pages
Posted by TT9
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26 words maybe.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:32 pm to
We had a discussion earlier today about you posting this on several boards

I haven't gotten around to reading it yet; it seems just a bit on the long side.
Posted by Alabama Slim
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:32 pm to
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1958



Posted by lsuin09
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:32 pm to
Dood they already laughed at your earlier on here today for posting that shite on an aubie site
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:33 pm to
sup brah?
Posted by CC Tiger1
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:33 pm to
The gumps have also spread rumors about Auburn paying Carnell Williams, Tray Blackmon, Micheal Goggans, Michael McNeil, and Jerrell Harris in recent years.

They have also apread rumors about Tennessee cheating in football, Mississippi State cheating in basketball, and Ole Miss Cheating in football in recent years.

Despite all the rumors, lies, and other bullshite they spread about other schools, the gumps cry like a little beotch everytime somebody says anything negative or derogatory about their school
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:33 pm to
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Dood they already laughed at your earlier on here today for posting that shite on an aubie site
CC for ya....
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

the present controversy with the athletics of Alabama Polytechnic Institute


Posted by Dinkle Dawg
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

Here is an interesting article about the gumps trying to get Auburn on probation back in the 1950's. Bammers like North Alabam turd fan cry about Auburn fans spreading rumors about their school cheating, but the gumps were actually hiring private detectives to get Auburn on probation as far back as the 1950's
sounds like UM on Jackie in the 90's
Posted by CC Tiger1
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Dood they already laughed at your earlier on here today for posting that shite on an aubie site
Who laughed at me? If it was gumps, I really dont give a shite what they think. I really dont give a shite what you think either


Most other people laugh at 95% of your posts, but that doesnt stop you from posting on this board every single day
This post was edited on 7/7/09 at 9:56 pm
Posted by lsuin09
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:38 pm to
36-0 Bitch
Posted by CC Tiger1
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:40 pm to
Didnt the gumps beat LSU last year also?
Posted by lsuin09
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:41 pm to
Didnt lsu beat your sorry arse team?
Posted by CC Tiger1
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

We had a discussion earlier today about you posting this on several boards
Hey Ross, what username do you post under on aunation?


I posted this article on Tennessee rivals board, because you still have have a bunch of gumps constantly crying on that board about Phil Fulmer trying to get their school on probation. I wanted to show the Tennessee fans on that board what a bunch of hypocrites gumps are
This post was edited on 7/7/09 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

Sister School ‘bama


Sounds about right.

Wonder if this is when the gumps inferiority complex began.
Posted by CrimsonCrush
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 9:55 pm to
In more recent news, Kennedy defeats Nixon in a close election.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Hey Ross, what username do you post under on aunation?


AURoss

I don't post there often; I really just use it to keep up to date with Auburn news. Lot of informed posters on that site.
This post was edited on 7/7/09 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Triple6Rebel
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Posted on 7/7/09 at 10:04 pm to
I can't believe they have Private Detectives for this shite.
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