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Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:55 am to thunderbird1100
Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:55 am to thunderbird1100
I went over and looked at the division in ARK football. For some reason there is no 1A division? 
2A = 48 schools
3A = 48 schools
4A = 48 schools
5A = 32 schools
6A = 16 schools
7A = 16 schools
Total = 208 schools
That is setup terribly. 4 divisions should be the case.
2A = 48 schools
3A = 48 schools
4A = 48 schools
5A = 32 schools
6A = 16 schools
7A = 16 schools
Total = 208 schools
That is setup terribly. 4 divisions should be the case.
This post was edited on 1/24/09 at 10:59 am
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Posted on 1/24/09 at 10:58 am to HawgAlude
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either way we have upgraded our program....you keep saying we will end up 7th in the SEC -- well were will we end up in the SEC west division since the West and East play each other for the championship?
7th in SEC recruiting.
You'll likely end up 3rd or 4th in the West next year as far as standings.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:06 am to thunderbird1100
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That is setup terribly. 4 divisions should be the case.
I agree, it is kind of a jacked up system. But it has to be set up like that...at least for now.
The wealth in Arkansas, and thus populations, are really only in 2 parts of the state (Northwest Arkansas and Little Rock). Thus, the teams in these areas are stacked with depth. All the other little po-dunk towns in Arkansas barely have enough to for their players to play 2-way. Thus, in order to stop the embarrassing 70-3 blowouts of the past, Arkansas came up with a system that tries to keep its deeper roster teams pitted against each other. The State Championship 4A team got killed by a 7A team in a scrimmage this year. THat is how bad it is.
So for now, it'll just have to make do, til they find a better system
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:06 am to thunderbird1100
To be technical, we are now 6th in SEC recruiting, #15 nationally with yesterdays pick up of a 6th 4 Star.
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Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:12 am to woopiginaustin
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we are now 6th in SEC recruiting,
And I said you would be today. However, Tennessee has a ton less commits and will pass you up once they finish up their class, making you 7th in the SEC to end. And that's counting all the non-qualifiers you guys are signing which will go away in the enrolled rankings.
This post was edited on 1/24/09 at 11:14 am
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:14 am to thunderbird1100
all i care about is Arkansas is finally recruiting better players. If we can beat LSU with the decent talent we had, we should get better with better talent.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:16 am to thunderbird1100
Not if we pick up Wingo or various others, and we will.
I have never met someone as hell bent on preaching the inferiority of another program as you. You are more likely to chime in on why Arkansas, and only Arkansas, can't succeed than you are to say much of anything about your own school.
It's a free world but sometimes I wonder about you. Have a nice Saturday
I have never met someone as hell bent on preaching the inferiority of another program as you. You are more likely to chime in on why Arkansas, and only Arkansas, can't succeed than you are to say much of anything about your own school.
It's a free world but sometimes I wonder about you. Have a nice Saturday
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:19 am to woopiginaustin
He is just pissed that we have beat them 2 years in a row. I was pissed when LSU blew us out a few years back, but not to the point i have small-dick syndrome about it
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:27 am to woopiginaustin
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Not if we pick up Wingo or various others, and we will.
Tennessee will pass you, bank on it. They have a lot more to go than you do. They have 12 less commits right now. And if for some reason they don't end up in front of you in the end because you signed a bunch of non-qualifiers. They most certainly will be ahead of you after enrolled rankings come out.
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I have never met someone as hell bent on preaching the inferiority of another program as you. You are more likely to chime in on why Arkansas, and only Arkansas, can't succeed than you are to say much of anything about your own school.
Once again this goes back to what I was saying earlier avbout some ARK fans. They are the ones that see saying facts about their team as "bringing them down". Sorry you see your team much higher up in the SEC but it simply hasn't been the case. If saying facts is "preaching inferiority" in Arkansas fan's minds then so be it. And yeah, let me tell you how I've spent 90% of my 6000 some odd posts preaching against Arkansas and never talking about LSU. This is an ARKANSAS THREAD
This post was edited on 1/24/09 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:30 am to GoHoGsGo06
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He is just pissed that we have beat them 2 years in a row.
Not at all. Yes I thin kwe should beat Arkansas more than we have been, the game didn't affect our season at all the past 2 years. Whether we beat you or not in 2007 we still get a NC. Whether we beat you or not this past year we still win the Peach Bowl. So honestly, could care less about the outcome of the past 2 games, it didn't affect our standing at the end at all.
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I was pissed when LSU blew us out a few years back, but not to the point i have small-dick syndrome about it
Once again, if you guys want to sit here and see facts as something else then so be it. Not my fault you guys can't accept reality.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:36 am to GoHoGsGo06
Let It go.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 11:38 am to thunderbird1100
the reality is you can lose 3-4 conference games in the SEC get to the championship game win that then end up in the National Championship game. LSU days of doormat domination are over. Bama will be stronger, so will we and then add in Ole Miss throwing one or two upsets a season and the West is a lot more choppy than the East.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 12:16 pm to HawgAlude
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the reality is you can lose 3-4 conference games in the SEC get to the championship game win that then end up in the National Championship game
Please get some therapy.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 2:09 pm to thunderbird1100
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Arkansas in reality needs no more than 5, and would do best with 4 divisions. It's not a very large state by any means. Hell, Georgia only has 5 division and a 6th has been talked about for a few years but still hasn't materialized.
Absolutely agree. It is a joke the way they have that set up. 4 divisions would be good with me.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 4:58 pm to SLC
On the quality of Arkansas High School Football... I follow Texarkana Texas High Football pretty closely. This season, Texas High, a 4A school in Texas, handily beat Lake Hamilton, the 6A State Champion in Arkansas at their stadium. Texas High was bounced in the second round of the playoffs in Texas.
On the quality of the University of Arkansas Football... I think that some of ya'll have put too much weight on the results of the Arkansas vs. LSU games the past two seasons. It's like walking up to one of those giant oak trees on LSU's campus, and staring at only it, and thinking, "Man, there HAS to be a huge forest around this tree!" Nope, that's just a tree. The larger picture tells you that until something changes in the formula of the makeup of the Razorback football program, the end results will not change.
On the quality of the University of Arkansas Football... I think that some of ya'll have put too much weight on the results of the Arkansas vs. LSU games the past two seasons. It's like walking up to one of those giant oak trees on LSU's campus, and staring at only it, and thinking, "Man, there HAS to be a huge forest around this tree!" Nope, that's just a tree. The larger picture tells you that until something changes in the formula of the makeup of the Razorback football program, the end results will not change.
Posted on 1/24/09 at 9:06 pm to Tiger Phil
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On the quality of the University of Arkansas Football... I think that some of ya'll have put too much weight on the results of the Arkansas vs. LSU games the past two seasons. It's like walking up to one of those giant oak trees on LSU's campus, and staring at only it, and thinking, "Man, there HAS to be a huge forest around this tree!" Nope, that' sa tree. The larger picture tells you that until something changes in the formula of the makeup of the Razorback football program, the end results will not change.
This paragraph does not make sense in the least bit.
Most of the true football fans I know here in AR agree that our high school talent needs to improve, a lot.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:23 am to SLC
Just my bias two cents:
Since joining the SEC in 1992, Arkansas has been one of the top athletic programs not only in this conference, but the nation.
Basketball Final 4's and NC's, Baseball CWS appearances and Division Titles, Football Division Titles and 11 Bowl games, non-stop SEC and NCAA Track and Field Championships. On and on....
Rivals just ranked Baum Stadium the #1 College Baseball venue in America, Bud Walton is a palace with more seats in less space than any arena in the world (19k +), Razorback Stadium is one of the nicest in the SEC and definitely the most technologically advanced, and there is no need to even go into track facilities.
Additionally, in regards to football, Forbes ranks Arkansas as the #15 Football Most Valuable Program in the nation.
What is my point?
The "poor lil' ole' Arkansas mentality" has no basis. Arkansas has more money, better facilities, more statewide support, and more on the field success than the majority of its peers athletic programs. If Arkansas football doesn't succeed it has nothing to do with location, facilities, etc... It is nothing more than poor leadership. Period. End of story.
Since joining the SEC in 1992, Arkansas has been one of the top athletic programs not only in this conference, but the nation.
Basketball Final 4's and NC's, Baseball CWS appearances and Division Titles, Football Division Titles and 11 Bowl games, non-stop SEC and NCAA Track and Field Championships. On and on....
Rivals just ranked Baum Stadium the #1 College Baseball venue in America, Bud Walton is a palace with more seats in less space than any arena in the world (19k +), Razorback Stadium is one of the nicest in the SEC and definitely the most technologically advanced, and there is no need to even go into track facilities.
Additionally, in regards to football, Forbes ranks Arkansas as the #15 Football Most Valuable Program in the nation.
What is my point?
The "poor lil' ole' Arkansas mentality" has no basis. Arkansas has more money, better facilities, more statewide support, and more on the field success than the majority of its peers athletic programs. If Arkansas football doesn't succeed it has nothing to do with location, facilities, etc... It is nothing more than poor leadership. Period. End of story.
This post was edited on 1/25/09 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:35 am to woopiginaustin
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The "poor lil' ole' Arkansas mentality" has no basis. Arkansas has more money, better facilities, more statewide support, and more on the field success than the majority of its peers athletic programs. If Arkansas football doesn't succeed it has nothing to do with location, facilities, etc... It is nothing more than poor leadership. Period. End of story.
Facilities are not even close to being the end all be all. Fayetteville is a hard place to recruit guys out of state from. Recruiting is the biggest issue by far and it's something Arkansas has lacked since joining the SEC in terms of compared to other programs in the SEC. Hence why you have dropped off since the SWC days. It's really as simple as that.
Posted on 1/25/09 at 11:45 am to thunderbird1100
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Fayetteville is a hard place to recruit guys out of state from
This is the most used, and silly, excuse of them all.
What makes Fayetteville hard to recruit to? Have you ever been there? Washington County is home to three Fortune 500 companies, one of which accounts for 7% of all retail sales in the nation. Washington County (Fayetteville for all intents and purposes) is the 3rd fastest growing county in America with one of the highest median income and home prices in the nation. Where in the hell do you think Fayetteville is? A desert?
Athens, Tuscaloosa, Baton Rouge, and Gainesville are damn sure no more appealing and have no more to offer a 17 year old than Fayetteville.
If you are concerned with Texas recruiting, and it seems that you are, Arkansas is in Dallas for the next 10 years matched up with A&M.
Get out a little.
This post was edited on 1/25/09 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/25/09 at 12:01 pm to woopiginaustin
You have got to be kidding me...I've been to Fayetteville and there absolutely nothing special about the place in the form of attracting tennagers to go there. Austin, Athens and Baton Rouge (with NOLA a short drive away) are 10x easier to recruit to.
That is just flat out delusional on your part thinking Fayetteville is way better than it is.
That is just flat out delusional on your part thinking Fayetteville is way better than it is.
This post was edited on 1/25/09 at 12:01 pm
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