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re: Addressing the "attacking style" Chavis defense claims - Gulf War Edition

Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:54 pm to
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Yep, Chavis held Alabama to 5/17 3rd down conversions in last years game... ...through the first 58 minutes. Alabama went 3/3 on 3rd down the last 2 minutes and OT. In 2012 Chavis held Alabama to 1/9 on 3rd down... ...through 58 minutes. The last two minutes Alabama had 4 consecutive 1st downs and converted 2nd down for a TD.
What was LSU's 3rd down conversion rate on offense in those Bama games?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:54 pm to
LSU was 9/22 last year and 10/20 in 2012.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:54 pm to
LINK

The LSU reveille seemed to think a Chavis was pretty good on third down once upon a time...
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23262 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:55 pm to
Only an Aggie would pull an article from the FURMAN game
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
2053 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:56 pm to
I don't know. I didn't make it. Obviously, there are lots of variables involved. However, it's realistic to expect improvement overall, and in this area (granted, improving is really the only direction our defense can go).
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39885 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:57 pm to
LSU reveille

You know it's bad when it has the word "reveille" in it.

@ Realistic Ag

I never once disputed that

The whole thread is about the "attacking style" buzzword that gets tossed around when mentioning Chavis.
This post was edited on 6/23/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:57 pm to
Especially with the return of Hilliard and a fully healthy Hall
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:58 pm to
Not bad. But if your defense is holding Bama to 1/9 on 3rd down through 58 minutes, then you should have a lead that's large enough to win the game.

That's probably how Chavis feels about it...
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 3:59 pm to
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it's realistic to expect improvement overall

No doubt he's an improvement for A&M.

I doubt Steele stays at LSU long, they're probably grooming Ogre for the job. I suspect they didn't give it to him right off due to the fact that he's never held the position before.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:03 pm to
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Not bad. But if your defense is holding Bama to 1/9 on 3rd down through 58 minutes, then you should have a lead that's large enough to win the game. That's probably how Chavis feels about it...

I have no doubt LSU would have won both of those games if thay had held a lead of, say, 59 points with 2 minutes to go.

But how many times in Alabama's history do you think they've trailed by 59 points with 2 minutes to go in a game?

I'd venture to say "0".
Posted by Realistic Ag
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:03 pm to
I'll let you know in about 5 months my opinion on the buzzword (I know, I know...you're on the edge of your seat). However, "effective" is the only word I care about at the end of the day. The journey to get there doesn't really matter to me.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:04 pm to
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they're probably grooming Ogre for the job


No one anyone actually believes this. He's been a position coach for 27 years. If he's not ready now then 1 year under Steele, a mostly failed DC, is not going to make a difference.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:05 pm to
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This thread and its OP has arse hurt written all over it.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:07 pm to
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He's been a position coach for 27 years

No one anyone actually believes this.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:13 pm to
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Not bad. But if your defense is holding Bama to 1/9 on 3rd down through 58 minutes, then you should have a lead that's large enough to win the game.

That's probably how Chavis feels about it...


Remind the class how the Aggy offense did against Bama last year?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:15 pm to
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No one anyone actually believes this. He's been a position coach for 27 years. If he's not ready now then 1 year under Steele, a mostly failed DC, is not going to make a difference.


Yeah, just dismiss yourself from the discussion.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23262 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:26 pm to
ON sIrius xm they just stated oregeron is going to get hired up from LSU after this year as a D coordinator at a big time program.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51791 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:27 pm to
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Yeah, just dismiss yourself from the discussion


He's been AT LEAST a position coach for 27 years. Him being a HC further makes my point, you realize that right?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:37 pm to
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Not bad. But if your defense is holding Bama to 1/9 on 3rd down through 58 minutes, then you should have a lead that's large enough to win the game. That's probably how Chavis feels about it...

I'm going to also point out that in 2012 A&M had a 5 point lead on Alabama with 2 minutes to go. The aggies proceeded to hold Alabama to 3 yards on 3rd and goal at the aggie 5, and then intercepted the ball on 4th down.

That was without John Chavis as DC of the fighting aggies.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31807 posts
Posted on 6/23/15 at 4:47 pm to
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ON sIrius xm they just stated oregeron is going to get hired up from LSU after this year as a D coordinator at a big time program.
I can see that happening ~ he been in the buisness long enough to climb up from a freaking position coach. I don't know why Les didn't hire him as DC to begin with?
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