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Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 3:57 pm to
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at worst sliding to Seattle for the 25th pick.


please explain how he fits in a west coast scheme/
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 3:57 pm to
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by watching more I probably know more.


There are some many things wrong with this statement that I'm just going to laugh at how asinine it is and then laugh more when you think you've "won".

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wrong answer,.


HA! This coming from a British kid who has watched a grand total of 3 years of college football. I've watched 3 season of Fringe. Guess that makes me an expert on all sciences according to your logic.

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again wrong answer. Many are former players and were involved with an NFL franchise in some capacity.


Here comes this dumbass again So tell me, what involvement did Peter King and Stewart Mandel have with an NFL Franchise before they started spewing their bullshite at SI. Having a press pass doesn't make you an expert or indicate that you have any clue what you are talking about.

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no again you're wrong. Inside sources that are used in articles and quoted.


You do realize that "anonymous source" is code word for "I made this shite up and just hope it sticks and if it doesn't I can blame my so called source for bad info", right?

I'll go out on a limb and say no.

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I sure am looking forward to draft day. I have alot of your stupid posts to give a bump too.



I will be right here waiting for all these guys you've been touting to fall. Hell I'll make a thread exclusively for your failures.
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Posted on 3/22/11 at 3:59 pm to
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please explain how he fits in a west coast scheme/


You do realize that no team in the NFL runs the West Coast scheme to a t right? You do realize that it has basically become an outdated broad term to describe many different offenses currently used in football, right?

I'm going to guess no.

Hell you probably don't even know what the originally West Coast Offense was, but I'm sure you'll try to google it and pass it off as you knowing it.

Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15585 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:00 pm to
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I don't think your stipulation will make a difference so I'll agree to it, even though I don't know why it matters if a team trades up to pick him in the first round.


If adam can have a stipulation in the avatar bet, I really think you should consider adding a clause regarding something that is not a known factor right now.

Like say, a failed weed or cocaine test result is leaked, or a sexual assault claim that somehow got swept under the rug, but mysteriously comes to light just a day or two before the draft.

It's just as plausible and as much of a deal-breaker as a team trading back into the first round.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:03 pm to
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can you please complain elsewhere?
Come on AdamKiper impress me with your vast football knowledge. Although we can see you are getting agitated by having your words thrown back at you. You should not make such silly claims if you do not want them to bite you in the arse later. I could pull up some of your claims on the MSB board as well. We should get some MSB'ers in this discussion
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:06 pm to
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please explain how he fits in a west coast scheme/


I'd assume he'd sit behind Hasselbeck for a couple years, and when he took over the offense would be tailored more to his strengths.

He might be a tall dude, but he has a pretty good 3-5 step drop, a quick release, and the ability to squeeze the ball into tight spots.
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:11 pm to
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f adam can have a stipulation in the avatar bet, I really think you should consider adding a clause regarding something that is not a known factor right now.

Like say, a failed weed or cocaine test result is leaked, or a sexual assault claim that somehow got swept under the rug, but mysteriously comes to light just a day or two before the draft.


I like the idea, but a bet has been entered into already. If any new info like that was going to be released, I think it would have happened by now.

Plus, I think Mallett's character and what not is just part of the bet anyways.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15585 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:28 pm to
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I think Mallett's character and what not is just part of the bet anyways

I hear ya.

Just saying that rumors and day-before-leaks are totally different animals.

Example: there were already "character concerns" about Randy Moss, but that didn't prevent every mock draft or every insider from slotting him within the top 5 picks. Then just before the draft, there was a report he failed a weed test, and the day of the draft multiple anonymous team sources were quoted as saying he is off their boards. He dropped to the 21st pick. A Mallett sexual assault leak might drop him to the 2nd day considering the Big Ben scandal is still fresh.

Just don't want you to be blind-sided.
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 4:48 pm to
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Just don't want you to be blind-sided.


Thanks. I'm just going to cross my fingers and hope such a situation doesn't happen. If it does, so be it, I'll change my avatar for a few months, no biggie.

Adammwilson, here's a sneak peak at what COULD be your avatar come April 28th (this is not my final choice)....

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
107223 posts
Posted on 3/22/11 at 5:38 pm to
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here's a sneak peak at what COULD be your avatar come April 28th (this is not my final choice)....


If I were you I would ask Freek if he would do the Avi for you that one is lacking in power. It just says doublewide with cardboard covering the windows is all I am saying.

If he is #1 the Avi needs to be major good.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 1:25 am
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 1:21 am to
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If he is #1 the Avi needs to be major good.


If Mallett does go #1, it would be awesome for LSUFreek to make an avatar for adammwilson.

BTW, adammwilson, you really have no clue as evidenced by this article I just came across.

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Panther's coach Ron Rivera told Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer Sunday that the Panthers are still considering roughly eight players to take with the first pick. That list includes three quarterbacks, including Ryan Mallett of Arkansas.


NBC Sports article

Edit: The NBC page cuts the article for some reason. Here's the full one: LINK
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 2:01 am
Posted by GamecockAlum
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/23/11 at 1:32 am to


Please bump this tomorrow.
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 2:01 am to
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Please bump this tomorrow.


I will if need be. Check my edit above for the full article I linked.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10021 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 7:20 am to
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Please bump this tomorrow.


Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 10:51 am to
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HogKing111


LINK


im leaving this thread now. Too many idiots who aren't interested in discussing the topic.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 10:53 am
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 10:59 am to
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im leaving this thread now. Too many idiots who aren't interested in discussing the topic.




Can't even acknowledge that the Panthers head coach himself contradicted your assertion that no way Panthers were looking at Mallett for the #1 pick? And then you post a tweet from some dude I've never heard of as your retort?
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:03 am to
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Can't even acknowledge that the Panthers head coach himself contradicted your assertion that no way Panthers were looking at Mallett for the #1 pick?


have you ever followed the draft before? Coaches lie all the time about players. Why would they take a guy #1 overall who is widely seen as a 2nd round player

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you post a tweet from some dude I've never heard of as your retort?


Peter King is arguably the most respected football writer in the country. He works for SI and other than Adam Schefter has the best sources around.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 11:05 am
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:04 am to
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Coaches lie all the time about players.




April 28th can't get here fast enough.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:06 am to
Why would they take a guy #1 overall who is widely seen as a 2nd round player?


If you can't see that Rivera is clearly not seriously considering Mallett with the 1st pick despite the fact nobody thinks he is a top 20 pick idk what to tell you. I'm not going to change your mind so we will wait until the draft.
Posted by HogKing111
Member since Nov 2010
3057 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:12 am to
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Why would they take a guy #1 overall who is widely seen as a 2nd round player?


Perception v Reality, my friend. Your perception of Mallett, influenced by your bias, sees what it wants to. You latch on to all the negative aspects of Mallett's game, you put too much stock into alleged off the field issues, and you give to much credit to the "experts" and their mock drafts (especially the ones that line up with your pre-existing bias).

Reality is, Mallett is in fact a 1st round QB.


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If you can't see that Rivera is clearly not seriously considering Mallett with the 1st pick despite the fact nobody thinks he is a top 20 pick idk what to tell you. I'm not going to change your mind so we will wait until the draft.


Rivera said himself, 3 days ago, that Carolina is looking at 8 players for their first pick. 3 of those players are QB's, and Mallett is one of those QB's. I don't know how it could be any more clear or anymore straight from the horses mouth. You have a serious case of denial.

It's okay to admit you were wrong on this one.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 11:14 am
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