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re: A Very Early Power Ranking Of The SEC
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:44 pm to dawg4lyfe
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:44 pm to dawg4lyfe
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gatormb89 posted: SCe is gonna be pretty unproven on the D side after Clowney.
Really? Or just wishful thinking on your part? What if I told you that you probably need to do a little bit more homework on your opponents than you have apparently been doing lately?
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dwg4lyfe posted:Georgia has one of the best offenses in the nation.
Depends on who you are playing I think. Agreed?
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dallasga6 posted (about the UGA/FL Cocktail party): FWIW... The WLOCP record is 3-3 in the last six years & UF leads 5-4 the last nine with 3 of those losses being by 4, 7 & 3 points in OT...
It's been a competitive series for a decade now. The 90's are over...
So, may we Gamecock fans now use that same argument with Georgia fans when some of you continue to tell us how dominant you are over us? I mean may I use that line, "it's been competitive for more than a decade now?" and not have some UGA fan cite the early 20th Century stuff?
Hell, we'll go back to the turn of the century if you want? UGA leads the series, since 2000, what - 7-6? Nine of the past 13 games decided by a TD or less?
Anyways, just wanted to make sure that was okay with the Dawg fans these days since y'all are evoking it on the Gator fans.
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therick711 posted: Here's my draft:
1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. TAMU
4. LSU
5. South Carolina
6. Georgia
7. Ole Miss
8. MSU
9. Arkansas
10. Tenn
11. Vanderbilt
12. Aubrn
13. Mizzou
14. Kentucky
Florida has to come to The Cock Pit this year. For that reason, and that reason only, I would swap UF and SC.
I'd also swap aTm and LSU.
IMHO it is Bama vs SC in Atlanta this year.
Here's my Top 6, the rest is pretty-much identical to yours.
1. Alabama (West Champ)
2. South Carolina (East Champ)
3. LSU (loses to Bama)
4. Florida (loses to SC)
5. Georgia (loses to SC & UF)
6 aTm (loses to Bama & LSU)
I'm pretty sure I'm going to be proven right about that again this year. I knew last year we could not run the gauntlet through UGA, @LSU and @UF, although I hoped we could. This year we have no such gauntlet to run. We've still got a tough schedule, but I think UGA has an equally tough schedule for a change so it is going to cost them this year - and the Florida/LSU game, I'm just torn about that game.
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:45 pm to NawlinsTigah270
I don't disagree but we have had a diff O line for each of last four years.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:46 pm to scrooster
USCe in the championship, how honest of you.
Also UGA will represent the East.
Also UGA will represent the East.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:47 pm to BOZ4LSU
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heading into the last Athens game in 2009 between UGA and LSU
Not very. We had Willy Martinez as our DC and Cox at QB. Those were dark days.
We had a lot of team talent but it was ruined by those two factors. Had Aaron Murray been healthy he would have easily taken the starting QB job from Cox. We also didn't have a stud RB.This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:47 pm to adammwilson
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You can hype all these guys all you want but at the end of the day they haven't done much and what they have done hasn't been super positive.
you're talking about Freshman and Sophmores playing behind some of the best talent in the SEC. What do you expect to see?
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all of which have been behind Montgomery and Mingo throughout their LSU careers.
and that excuses why they haven't done anything? Rasco has been decent in the limited amount of snaps he has had.
Well when the players you are talking about were behind Mingo, Montgomery and Edwards, i'd excuse their stats. Doesn't mean they wont be very good players.
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Ranked third on team in pass breakups
Is that supposed to mean something? You mean a CB that got a bunch of playing time had some pass breakups? I'm shocked.
when the player mentioned isn't even a starter, and comes in on nickel packages. I'd also say that it obviously means something to be selected freshman all-SEC by the coaches.
I understand your skepticism, as playing time is an issue, but its not like LSU is lacking in talent. I'd say the track record of LSU's ability to run young talent on the field and consistently finish near the top of the nation in total defense is enough to warrant respect. I also understand that my views can be considered "homerish" because I'm an LSU fan. I just dont see the defense falling off much.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:48 pm to scrooster
East
UF or UGA
SoCar
Damn, why can't we be in east?
UF or UGA
SoCar
Damn, why can't we be in east?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:52 pm to SofaKingTrill
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you're talking about Freshman and Sophmores playing behind some of the best talent in the SEC. What do you expect to see?
When they do play they play well or for that matter at all.
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Doesn't mean they wont be very good players.
No, but it's hard to say they are going to break out when they've hardly played.
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when the player mentioned isn't even a starter, and comes in on nickel packages. I'd also say that it obviously means something to be selected freshman all-SEC by the coaches.
Ya'll played a lot of nickel. Plus Collins didn't just play as a NB. He played on the outside some too.
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its not like LSU is lacking in talent.
I know you're going to disagree but at safety and backup DT I'd say y'all are. The DE's are a wild card too, though they are at least very talented.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:58 pm to adammwilson
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Seems like you're the one that wasn't watching. Who is going to stop the run to replace Logan?
are you just young? or are you just stupid? You are sitting here bashing a chavis coached defense, loaded with 4 and 5 star talent...jesus....LSU returns 7 guys on defense that started last year at some point, the linebackers will be flat out nasty...they will be extremely strong up the middle with ego and freak...and rasco got a lot of quality playing time last year...and the truth is, our ends didn't do a great job of pass rushing last year. Our secondary is DBU....give me a fricking break....the offense will be better, the defense will be no worse...the schedule, however, is not friendly.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 7:58 pm to adammwilson
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adammwilson
well I guess i'll just leave this thread with a respectful disagreement. I respect your opinion as you said that you enjoy watching LSU play and you actually do have a knowledge of the players. I just don't see the LSU defense falling out of the top 5 of the SEC which is usually good for top 20 in the nation. Either way i'm really looking forward to this season, and the game in Athens. It will be a fresh start with new young talent.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:01 pm to adammwilson
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I know you're going to disagree but at safety and backup DT I'd say y'all are. The DE's are a wild card too, though they are at least very talented.
okay...you are just trolling I see. You must be when you start questioning dbu...they have some great safeties on staff..and reid was a liability a LOT of the time last year. Hell, have the team cashed in on defense last year after bama. This is funny. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about...you are just going off the assumption that LSU lost a lot of guys so therefore they won't be good....without even considering they played a ton of fresh last year, and are extremely talented and well-coached.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:03 pm to SofaKingTrill
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I just don't see the LSU defense falling out of the top 5 of the SEC
They won't...they will likely barely miss a beat, especially with the lb corp being the best we have had in a LONG time. He knows names...he doesn't know talent. He talked down martin and talked up reid...never even mentioned mills when wondering who would play the other cb....
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:07 pm to ILurknomore
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are you just young? or are you just stupid?
Neither you can't read.
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You are sitting here bashing a chavis coached defense, loaded with 4 and 5 star talent
bashing now equals thinking they won't be as good as the D LSU has had the last 2 years?
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the linebackers will be flat out nasty
Oh I agree the LB's are very very talented. It's the strength of the D.
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.they will be extremely strong up the middle with ego and freak.
But again neither is the run plugger LSU has had in the past at DT. That's my only point. I like both players a lot. Not to mention there is no depth.
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the truth is, our ends didn't do a great job of pass rushing last year.
funny that Mingo will be top 15 and Montgomery will go before the 3rd. Not to mention Edwards will likely go in the 4th.
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Our secondary is DBU....give me a fricking break.
How did that secondary look last year? It struggled at times. Now with the loss of Reid and no impressive replacement and the loss of Simon it's going to get worse.
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the defense will be no worse.
you win for ultimate homer.Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:09 pm to ILurknomore
wilson wasn't trolling
had a good argument and I am actually thankful for a decent conversation on the Rant for once.
to wilson
had a good argument and I am actually thankful for a decent conversation on the Rant for once.
to wilson
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:09 pm to SofaKingTrill
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I just don't see the LSU defense falling out of the top 5 of the SEC which is usually good for top 20 in the nation.
I could see them having a top 5 D I just don't think it will be the force (most games) it has been in 2011 and 2012.
I appreciate the mutual respect.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:14 pm to ILurknomore
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.you are just trolling I see.
Nope you're just a big time homer.
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You must be when you start questioning dbu..
Yeah you guys definitely looked like DBU last year while playing Collins, Martin, and Eugene. Mills, while impressive for a freshman had his rough times too.
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.they have some great safeties on staff.
Name 2.
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
again you're a pathetic homer.
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you are just going off the assumption that LSU lost a lot of guys so therefore they won't be good
not at all.
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they played a ton of fresh last year,
yes at LB and DB. I already talked about the DB's.
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are extremely talented
Not at safety and backup DT and I've already talked about Collins.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:16 pm to ILurknomore
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.he doesn't know talent.
Yeah I do man you're just a homer no other way to put it. You think every one of LSU's players is an All SEC beast. It's ok you can admit it.
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He talked down martin and talked up reid..
Now why would I do that? Martin wasn't a starter and didn't play well.
Meanwhile, Reid has been one of the better safety's in the SEC for several seasons and is about to be drafted somewhere in rounds 2-4 as one of the first safeties.
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never even mentioned mills when wondering who would play the other cb....
I never mentioned Mills because he is a good player and played pretty well most of the time as a true freshman. I never wondered who would play the other CB. Nowhere did I post that.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:17 pm to BOZ4LSU
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BOZ4LSU
to you Sir.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:17 pm to ILurknomore
Don't even entertain these clowns anymore with this.
The more I think about it, we are gonna be fine. It's rediculous for us when we hear these outside opinions. We have as much talent as anyone. These you get guys have more heart than some of the juniors that left to go along with incredible talent.
Face it bud, the team was a little off last year at least in comparison to 2011 team. Maybe that was tyrann.
Maybe Jefferson.
But the bottom line is we just reload. 98% of the programs wish they were where we are now. We won't fall off anytime soon.
If anything WE are the team that beats themselves not the ones that tries 50 plus yard fgs when they have two kickers. 2 kickers is like two qbs. If you got two, you got none. Look at the way we have won and lost games under Miles. There are always crazy. To be an opposing fan without the last name Gump must be have a fantastic fantasyland off season.
The more I think about it, we are gonna be fine. It's rediculous for us when we hear these outside opinions. We have as much talent as anyone. These you get guys have more heart than some of the juniors that left to go along with incredible talent.
Face it bud, the team was a little off last year at least in comparison to 2011 team. Maybe that was tyrann.
Maybe Jefferson.
But the bottom line is we just reload. 98% of the programs wish they were where we are now. We won't fall off anytime soon.
If anything WE are the team that beats themselves not the ones that tries 50 plus yard fgs when they have two kickers. 2 kickers is like two qbs. If you got two, you got none. Look at the way we have won and lost games under Miles. There are always crazy. To be an opposing fan without the last name Gump must be have a fantastic fantasyland off season.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:23 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Wilson you did own him there at the end. Is that word forbidden these days
All good conversation for once. Maybe because its lacking Arkansas and a&m fans.
The last year, I'll say these two fan bases have replace bama and auburn.
Cheers the damn state of Alabama. You are not that bad
Damn I'm in a great mood tonight
All good conversation for once. Maybe because its lacking Arkansas and a&m fans.
The last year, I'll say these two fan bases have replace bama and auburn.
Cheers the damn state of Alabama. You are not that bad
Damn I'm in a great mood tonight
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:17 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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All good conversation for once.
Yeah I enjoyed it. I really really like LSU.
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