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re: A UGa Win and Alabama still making the Playoffs: Chaos for the P5 Conferences

Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:18 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:18 am to
Everyone knows the committee uses a lot of info. Based on that info, they got Ohio state behind their main competition, and not much info left that can change that. This ain’t 2014. That’s what you continue to ignore.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:18 am to
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That's wrong, on several levels


You need help to get into the playoffs. You don't control your own destiny. You need Georgia and Oklahoma to lose. Beating 8-4 Northwestern doesn't do anything for you towards this.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:22 am to
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This ain’t 2014.


It's still a committee, and no one knows what they'll do based on this week's rankings. It's laughable to pretend that you do.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:23 am to
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You need Georgia and Oklahoma to lose.


No, we don't.

We need the committee to put us at #4 or higher. Period.

There are a lot of ways that can happen.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:25 am to
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We need the committee to put us at #4 or higher. Period.


You aren't going to get there by beating 8-4 Northwestern. Not happening.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39367 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:30 am to
The 2018 committee views ou > Ohio state based on a ton of info, and the strength of opponents this week provide no reason to drop ou or uga behind Ohio st should both win. You are letting what happened in 2014 cloud your judgement.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:40 am to
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Not happening.


You're not on the committee.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:41 am to
You're not on the committee, either.

Oklahoma isn't in with a win.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39367 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:41 am to
Only one person is ignoring what the committee has done this year. That’s you. You just hope 2014 happens again even though the similarities aren’t there.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 11:43 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:44 am to
Their opinion was that Oklahoma was #5 and Ohio State was #6.

You know nothing beyond that. You have no idea why they put them there, how close they are, or what their opinions will be after Saturday. Speculation is all you can give. Time to accept that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39367 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:49 am to
That’s an opinion based on 12 games. They clearly don’t like that terrible loss to Purdue. The only thing that can be added to it is are games against Texas and northwestern, which just isn’t the awe inspiring opponent you want or need it to be. This is a totally different set up than 2014.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:50 am to
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That’s an opinion


Correct.

Opinions can and do change, yes or no?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39367 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:06 pm to
Sure they can change, but A win over 8-4 northwestern isn’t the kind of thing that’s gonna do it. Y’all needed to have a much stronger opponent than ou to accomplish that. That loss to Purdue is an albatross, just as that loss to Iowa was.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9208 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:27 pm to
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No, we don't.

We need the committee to put us at #4 or higher. Period.

There are a lot of ways that can happen.


You have to admit that the deck is stacked heavily against you. The 29 point loss to Purdue is such an eye sore combined with the fact that your opponent this week can't help your resume makes this a tough trek to #4.

No other team that has a legitimate shot at the playoffs has such a damning negative to contend with.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:33 pm to
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Sure they can change


Indeed.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:38 pm to
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You have to admit that the deck is stacked heavily against you.


The problem people are having in this discussion is the assumption that I'm arguing that Ohio State should be ahead of Oklahoma. I never made that argument. The claim was made that Alabama is a lock no matter what, and Oklahoma is a lock with a win. Both of those claims are incorrect. They might make it in if those things happen, but it isn't a certainty.

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No other team that has a legitimate shot at the playoffs has such a damning negative to contend with.



Oklahoma has, by far, the worst defense we've ever seen from a championship contender. They're not good enough to win it all. The committee can do whatever they want, so do they go with "four best teams" or "most deserving."

Who knows, outside of those closed doors.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26104 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:46 pm to
Alabama should probably be in if they lose a close one. We want every week to matter. There has not been one extended period (more than one week) this season where Oklahoma or Ohio State have looked definitively better than Bama. Since October it hasn’t even been an arguement who looks better
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9208 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:46 pm to
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Oklahoma has, by far, the worst defense we've ever seen from a championship contender.


Friend, I realize you are an OSU guy politicking for your team and have an emotional skin in the game. Their is a whopping difference in what you call the "worst defense" for a championship contender and the "Worst Loss" by a championship contender.

OU has a chance to beat the one team that put a blemish on their schedule and they happen to be 14th ranked in the very poll that the selection committee made up.

With that said, had Ohio State played like they did against Michigan all year we would be having a different conversation. I will say that very impressive win against #4 could not have come at a better time.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted by VVega
Alabama
Member since Sep 2013
5770 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:49 pm to
There is a reason all these people want Alabama left out, that gives their team a better chance at winning. It’s cute, but if Tua is healthy Bama isn’t losing to anyone.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 12:50 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39367 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Indeed


but A win over 8-4 northwestern isn’t the kind of thing that’s gonna do it. Y’all needed to have a much stronger opponent than ou to accomplish that. That loss to Purdue is an albatross, just as that loss to Iowa was.
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