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re: A article about the SEC from an outsider as written by a buddy of mine.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:23 pm to CNB
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:23 pm to CNB
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Georgia and South Carolina middle of the pack?
Your right. Georgia should be top tier. For all the people that just started watching football the past few years, here is the breakdown.
The Big 6
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
These are the only 6 six that really matter when you talk SEC. Each has had it's amazing runs in the modern era. (LSU 00's, Fla and Tenn 90's, etc.) Each has had its struggles-(Tenn- now, LSU-90's, Bama-early 00's). Even through struggles these 6 have most tradition, best fans, best players and recruit on a different level than that of other schools.
Middle Pack
Arkansas
Ole Miss
South Carolina
These schools can be good enough to win their divisions and have really good seasons, but don't attract enough elite talent to compete with the big 6 year to year. South Carolina and Arkansas are on good runs now, but they still havent won a conference title and probably won't in near future.
Usual bottom feeders
Miss St
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
These schools will have some good years like Miss St last year, but these schools have the smallest fan base and have trouble consistently recruiting.
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Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:25 pm to bigorange34232
Just keep up that Big 6 argument. It's doing you wonders lately
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:31 pm to Hubbhogg
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Just keep up that Big 6 argument. It's doing you wonders lately
It actually does matter. We show recruits our national title and SEC championships. Not to mention the fact that we have the best players in the NFL out of all schools in SEC.
What does Arkansas have to show? We have been good the last couple of years, but we have the same amount of SEC championships as Kentucky and Miss State. Oh and our players aren't successful in the NFL
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:32 pm to bigorange34232
Is it possible to bypass "middle of the pack" and drop straight from "Big 6" to "bottom feeder"?
As a UT fan, you should be interested in the answer to this question.
As a UT fan, you should be interested in the answer to this question.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:36 pm to bigorange34232
No way Florida was higher than middle of the pack before the 1990s. So it is possible to change positions in the span of a few seasons.
Like what's happening at Tennessee.
Like what's happening at Tennessee.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:37 pm to busey
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Is it possible to bypass "middle of the pack" and drop straight from "Big 6" to "bottom feeder"?
As a UT fan, you should be interested in the answer to this question.
So you think the Tennessee program is at the bottom of SEC?
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:37 pm to genro
Also, Ole Miss is not middle of the pack.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:37 pm to bigorange34232
Currently, yes.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:42 pm to genro
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No way Florida was higher than middle of the pack before the 1990s. So it is possible to change positions in the span of a few seasons.
Like what's happening at Tennessee.
What I'm saying is that the big 6 have won on levels that the others haven't won on. I mean if Arkansas won 2 national championships in the next decade, then they probably join the big 6. The point is that no school outside big 6 has proven anything to be considered elite programs.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:44 pm to CNB
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buddy needs to right-less
Too easy.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:46 pm to busey
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Currently, yes
That's based off of one season. I'm not talking bout one season. So when Alabama went 3-8 in 2000, it meant that all the tradition that Alabama had was wiped away and they were not an elite program?
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:48 pm to busey
Here we go. They have been terrible the last 2 seasons, but they have more tradition, fans, etc than the other 3 bottom feeders.
Using your logic, Texas is a dump because they have had 2 sub par years. Correct?
Using your logic, Texas is a dump because they have had 2 sub par years. Correct?
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:50 pm to bigorange34232
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That's based off of one season.
Try again.
I do agree that historically UT is Big 6. But you will probably be replaced by Arkansas or USCe within the next ten years.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:51 pm to bigorange34232
Texas has played for a NC very recently, and done very well otherwise.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:52 pm to bigorange34232
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Middle Pack
Arkansas
Ole Miss
South Carolina
One of these is not like the others.
MSU has actually won the western division before, OM has not. So there is no argument that OM is more likely to win the division than MSU, and they have been no better than us. Also their fanbase isn't any larger than ours, they are about the same.
They are far and away from being middle of the pack
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:53 pm to deltaland
He really fricked up the fan base thing. Kentucky has a larger fan base than both MSU and OM (not meant to be a flame) and is about the same size as Arky.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:53 pm to bigorange34232
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So when Alabama went 3-8 in 2000, it meant that all the tradition that Alabama had was wiped away and they were not an elite program?
Can UT spend 7 seasons in the wilderness and then hire a Nick Saban-caliber coach to turn it around 180 degrees? Frankly I was surprised Bama could. I doubt UT can.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:56 pm to busey
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I do agree that historically UT is Big 6. But you will probably be replaced by Arkansas or USCe within the next ten years.
Hahahahaha So now your argument is based off of probably? I have a question for you.
Who has been to the SEC championship game more recently? Arkansas or Tennessee?
And comparing Tennessee and South Carolina is so easy I'll just let that one go.
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:56 pm to genro
I like how people started off making fun of the article, and then fell right into mimicking it
Posted on 12/6/11 at 5:57 pm to busey
Terrible arguement, MSU has been the better program since the split divisions. Croom and Coach O eras were even, When we had Sherrill we were the better program in the 90's, with 6 bowls and a western division crown, and a ten win season.
And we have been the better program since getting Mullen. But they have the grove, at least.
Agree UK has the larger fan base and stadium, OM and MSU are about equal in that category.
And we have been the better program since getting Mullen. But they have the grove, at least.
Agree UK has the larger fan base and stadium, OM and MSU are about equal in that category.
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