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re: 247 "Team Talent" Rankings for 2017 vs Actual Results
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
If Mullen brings that same actual-to-talent ratio to Florida he should do very well here.
If he can, you know, recruit anyone. At all. Anyone please.
If he can, you know, recruit anyone. At all. Anyone please.
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 11:46 am to slayerxing
That’s what I was thinking. My key takeaway from this is that The future is bright for UF.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 12:31 pm to slayerxing
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If Mullen brings that same actual-to-talent ratio to Florida he should do very well here.
It depends on what Florida fans consider "very well" nowadays. Sure, Mullen might have the ability to coach up his team to play better than their talent, but he's also proven that it only goes so far. Mullen's MSU teams were more often than not humiliated when they faced teams with above average SEC talent.
Mullen was 5-22 against Alabama, LSU, and Auburn. His five wins came against relatively weak Auburn and LSU teams that averaged 7-6 records those years.
He lost to Alabama by double digits in 7 of the 9 meetings.... He lost by 20 or more points in 5 of the 9 meetings.... He thrice lost by 28 points or more.
He lost to LSU by double digits three times.... by 24, 25, and 39 points in those contests.
He lost to Auburn by double digits four times.... by 13, 20, 22, and 33 points in those contests.
This does not even cover the other blowouts Mullen's teams endured when they faced very strong competition.... such as his 28-point loss to #2 Georgia this past year.... his 25-point loss to #5 Texas A&M in 2012.... and his 27-point loss to #5 Arkansas in 2011
The only thing Mullen proved at MSU is that when you can't recruit solid talent, your team's ceiling is only so high. Sure you can beat Kentucky and Vanderbilt by large margins but you aren't going to beat solid teams barring some type of fluke upset.
I don't believe Mullen ever beat an opponent that finished in the AP Top 15.
So if Florida fans are expecting Mullen to bring the same blueprint to Gainesville, then sure, he may get to 8-4 and 9-3 type seasons fairly often. But if he loses to every single good Georgia, LSU, and Florida State team year-after-year, are Florida fans really going to be content?
I guarantee you in three years, Mullen's record at Florida will be decent. He'll likely be a combined 9-0 against Kentucky, Vandy, and Tennessee (sorry Vols). He'll likely be a combined 4-2 against the likes of South Carolina and Mizzou. But I also bet he'll be something like 0-9 against the likes of Georgia, LSU, and Florida State. THAT is the Mullen way of doing things.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:01 pm to BHMKyle
If Mullen is able to recruit at Florida consistently in the teens, which seems plausible based on his transition year, he will have better talent at UF than he did at MSU.
With that talent, if his actual-to-talent remains the same, he will probably outperform 8-9 wins a season.
Consider that even on the shite team he inherited at Florida, he has more 4 stars on the roster than he EVER had at MSU and this is one of Florida's weakest teams in so far as blue chip ratio in many years.
I also seriously doubt he is 0-9 against UGA, FSU, and LSU. Even mac and champ weren't 0-9 in 3 years.
With that talent, if his actual-to-talent remains the same, he will probably outperform 8-9 wins a season.
Consider that even on the shite team he inherited at Florida, he has more 4 stars on the roster than he EVER had at MSU and this is one of Florida's weakest teams in so far as blue chip ratio in many years.
I also seriously doubt he is 0-9 against UGA, FSU, and LSU. Even mac and champ weren't 0-9 in 3 years.
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:03 pm to yatesdog38
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This shows that if Dan Mullen COULD recruit in the top 10 he would be in the finals on the reg... stay positive florida fans. Maybe one day. We waited 9 years. Maybe it will just take 10 and we weren't patient enough
It's Mississippi fricking State. It's a hard place to sell..
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:scratching my head on this one. fedora seems to be legit. i watched them on occasion last year and brandon harris is just atrocious. he's made absolutely zero improvement since he got there. plus, the "good" list seems to be populated with schools like unc - not big athletic powerhouses, mid major types. he should be having more success there than he is
North Carolina (26 recruiting, 90 massey = -64)
Posted on 7/9/18 at 1:48 pm to slayerxing
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If Mullen is able to recruit at Florida consistently in the teens, which seems plausible based on his transition year, he will have better talent at UF than he did at MSU.
Yes, I'd say that is certainly plausible.
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With that talent, if his actual-to-talent remains the same, he will probably outperform 8-9 wins a season.
It all depends on the strength of Florida's opponents in a given season.
Sure, if Mullen is able to land a recruiting class ranked somewhere around #13 or #14 most years, he should have enough talent to go along with his good QB development and coaching to beat the majority of the SEC East teams on his schedule.
But a recruiting class ranked #13 or #14 is likely only going to land around eleven or twelve 4/5 Star recruits each year. When going up against programs like Alabama, Georgia, Florida State, or LSU (programs routinely bringing in nearly twice that many elite recruits most years), then I'm not sure its going to matter.
Like I said, I would be surprised if 8-4 doesn't become the norm in Gainesville under Mullen. But if he's 0-9 against Georgia, Florida State, and LSU after three seasons, will the overall record matter?
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:26 pm to BHMKyle
No the record won’t matter but do you really believe he’s going 0-9 against those three? Even shark Magee won 3.
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